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The Art of Accomplishment

Emile DeWeaver — Life After Murder: On Fear, Freedom, and Identity

The Art of Accomplishment

Brett Kistler

Self-improvement, Education, Personal Development, Management, Health & Fitness, Business, Mental Health

4.9273 Ratings

🗓️ 10 June 2022

⏱️ 49 minutes

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Summary

At the age of eighteen — just before the birth of his child — Emile began serving a life sentence for murder. In this episode, Emile tells us how he came to face the fear that drove him to kill a man, and which followed him into prison. He shares how he learned to love himself and see through an identity that might have otherwise imprisoned him in yet another manner. After finding inner freedom, Emile eventually wrote his way out from behind bars as well: his sentence was commuted in 2017 after serving twenty-one years, a testament to his journey and transformation. "I am under no illusions, right? I cannot make amends to the man I killed. I cannot make amends to his family. I still need to be a north star, right? In my world, in my life. So I can spend my time hating myself, [or] I could spend my time helping to create a world where little kids don't kill other little kids."

Transcript

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0:00.0

I am under no illusions, right?

0:04.0

I cannot make amends to the man I killed.

0:06.0

I cannot make amends to his family.

0:09.0

And that still needs to be a North Star, right?

0:13.0

In my world, in my life, what I feel like.

0:16.0

And so I can spend my time hating myself,

0:19.0

or I can spend my time helping to create a world where little

0:22.3

kids don't kill other little kids. Welcome to the art of accomplishment, where we explore how

0:28.0

deepening connection with ourselves and others leads to creating the life we want with enjoyment

0:32.5

and ease. I'm Brett Kistler, here today with my co-host, Joe Hudson.

0:44.3

We spend a lot of time on this podcast talking about fear. It's one of my favorite topics, and we've covered it from many perspectives, from parachuting off of cliffs to having difficult conversations in the boardroom and showing up authentically in relationships. But what if the fear you're facing is the fear of life imprisonment for murder?

0:58.5

That's not something we've really touched on in this podcast.

1:01.2

But you're in luck, because today Joe and I have the pleasure of speaking with Emil de Weaver,

1:06.1

who has been there and is here to tell us all about it.

1:10.0

That is the most interesting introduction I have ever had, and I've had some good

1:15.6

introduction.

1:22.3

I was trying not to laugh too hard or have it heard, and then once you laughed, I was like, all right, good. Now we get to laugh at that. That's great. That's a beautiful thing about human laughter. Like when you come out of the other end, you can laugh. And it does feel good to laugh because you know what you survived, right? And you know that it's not a laughing matter, but you know that like your

1:45.0

world's a better place for it and you can make the world a better place for it. So there still is

1:48.7

joy in it. So yeah, let's laugh at that. Yeah, yeah. Well, all right, let's dive into it. I dropped a

1:57.5

little bit of a bomb there to get our listeners hooked into the episodes, so I hope we have their attention now.

2:02.0

And let's give you the floor, Emil.

2:04.0

Tell us how you came to be here today and what you'd like to tell us about your journey with fear.

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