Welcome to the Black Girl Burnout Podcast, Kelly here,

and we are continuing our conversation with Dr. Janelle Howell.

What an enjoyable, fun conversation this has been so far.

We've learned so much about what is normal and what's not normal.

And in this segment of the conversation, we really dive a lot deeper into how do you start

to repair pelvic floor dysfunction.

And what are some of the barriers to people pursuing, taking care of their pelvic floor,

what are some of the continuing myths that people have, and how we also craft intimacy in our lives?

And again, intimacy nine and ten times is going to be something that's going to happen long before

the bedroom ever gets

involved and may not even involve a sexual partner at all. So we talk about how to cultivate more

intimacy in our lives and that even encompasses our friendships, the way we engage with our family

members long before we talk about sexual partnership, this is a great conversation.

So let's just get right back to it.

We are back.

Janelle, I am loving this conversation.

And I'm loving that you've come on. You've got the best energy to get us into the conversations we need to be having. And that's why I want you on and I wanted you on. It's like, we just need to talk about it. We need to talk about it. And one of the things we need to talk about is sex. But one of the things I told you is like, but we don't need to be

talking about the act of sex. We need to talk about what leads people to have sexual dysfunction,

which is the messages that we are getting, right? As black women and as women in general about our

bodies, let's start there, and then about sex and how we start to correct

that because there's so many people who are going into sexual relationships, unprepared,

physically, emotionally, mentally, but then not even knowing their body is enough to even be like,

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