The person's willingness to embrace intensity will mark the amount of change that they will feel in their life in a short term.

It's like it's a great leading indicator.

Welcome to the art of accomplishment, where we explore how deepening connection with ourselves and others leads to creating the life we want with enjoyment and ease.

I'm Brett Kistler,

here today with my co-host, Joe Hudson. Good morning, Joe. Hey, how's it going? Doing well? Well, it's actually afternoon here. Afternoon. Oh, yeah. Morning here, afternoon there. Hawaii, California.

Yeah. Yeah, I hear you're taking your daughter on a road trip. Yeah, yeah, she just got 15 and a half. She got the learners permit. And I was like, hey, how do you want to, how do you want to learn to drive? She was like, let's drive across country. So we're going to drive from California to New York. Oh, wow. Yeah. I'm really, I'm really excited for it because I,

you know, you get these moments with your kids, especially as they get older where you get to

like really deeply sink in with them on, on a topic. And, and those road trips are the best way to do

it. Three days ago, I'm sitting in this cafe, you know, COVID's opened up, sitting in a cafe with my 12-year-old, and we're talking about embracing intensity in this cafe where she's like trying to figure this out.

Like, what do I mean when I say to her like, oh, like, hey, you're running away from a feeling there, like lean into the feeling.

And we're having this conversation. It's just like one of those epic conversations you have with your kids every once while. And there was this lady who was sitting near us. And it was like watching her jaw just like drop, like what the hell is happening? Like how is this conversation happening between a dad and a 12 year old? It was really amazing. And it was that conversation,

actually, which is the reason that I said to you, hey, let's talk about embracing intensity.

Is that when you told her that she's going to be doing this drive all in one go in like 36 hours?

No, different daughter. The younger daughter is that I had the embracing conversation.

Oh, yeah, the 12 year old's not doing the driving.

Yeah, no. And that wouldn't be embracing intensity. That would be creating intensity. Uh-huh. Yeah, an important distinction. Big distinction. Yeah. Yeah, so this is something that comes up a lot in our courses as a principle for ESF and kind of a principle for any of the courses. and it's one of the things that really

kind of attracted me with my air sports

and like kind of a principle for any of the courses. And it's one of the things that really kind of attracted me with my air sports and like kind of extreme like adventuring background,

which is like, okay, yeah, embrace intensity. Yeah, let's do this. So like can you for the audience

define what it, what you mean by embracing intensity as opposed to what I just suggested on the road

trip, you know, creating an intensity.

So embracing intensity assumes that there is never a moment when there isn't some intensity

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