It's not you are greater than me. I'm greater than you. He's greater than she. It's learning

to see that we is greater than me. This is for the benefit of both of us. When I am

sacrificial, when I lay down my life, it is for the benefit of the we.

That's Deborah Fileta, who is joining us today on Focus on the Family and your host is Focus

President and author Jim Dealy. Thanks for joining us today. I'm John Fuller.

You know, when couples reach out to us, we often see that they're struggling because their

marriage isn't making them as happy as they thought it would. It's an expectation that

they bring into the marriage commitment. So many marriages break up because people are

saying, I'm not happier. It's not right for me. Let's look at it from a different perspective.

Maybe especially for those of us who are Christian, maybe it's meant to make us better. That

marriage is a design that God has set in place to help challenge us to become more selfless,

more like Christ, more servant minded. How about that? It's a tough one because we're selfish

as human beings living in our flesh in this world. But as Christians particularly, we're

supposed to die to that flesh every day. And there's no greater institution than marriage

to help your flesh die. And that's what we're going to talk about today.

Our guest Deborah is a professional counselor and she specializes in relationship and

marital issues. She's written two books. And the one we'll talk about today is called

Choosing Marriage. Why it has to start with we is greater than me. And we're so glad

she's here. She's married to John and they have three children. Deborah, welcome to focus.

Thank you. It's so good to be here. So good to have here. That we and versus me. Let's

just kick it off right there. Yeah. It's pretty funny. We is greater than me. That's really

what it comes down to. And a lot of people don't understand that going into marriage.

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