Many of these technologies are not set up to recognize queer bodies.

They're not set up and designed to recognize black bodies.

And so there is this kind of ongoing paradox where we are both hyper-visible, but also rendered to some degree eligible.

Hello and welcome to Tech Won't Save Us.

I'm your host, Paris Marks, and this week my guest is Legacy Russell.

Legacy is the associate curator of exhibitions at the Studio Museum in Harlem, and on Tuesday, it was also announced that she'll become the

executive director and chief curator of the kitchen in September. So congratulations to her on that.

Legacy is also the author of Glitch Feminism and of the forthcoming book Black Meme, which was

the recipient of the 2021 Creative Capital Award. Legacy gives us a bit of insight into what will be in Black Meme at the

end of the conversation, but most of it revolves around glitch feminism. And this was a really

fascinating conversation for me, because obviously I talk about technology with different guests

every single week, but Legacy brings a different perspective from the art world and in particular from her

background in art history that, you know, I'll be completely open in saying that it's not something

that I have much of a background in or a knowledge about. So it was really interesting to me

to hear her kind of bring those insights into these larger conversations that we're having on

this podcast about technology,

about the impacts that it has on our world, about the impacts that it has on us as people as

individuals. And, you know, Legacy's work in particular focuses on those impacts on black people,

on queer people, on female identified people. So I was really happy to have her on the show to discuss these issues

and to learn from her perspective. And I'm positive that you will as well. Before we get into the

show, the second issue of the newsletter came out on Sunday. The response has been really great.

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