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The Dave Chang Show

Embracing Discomfort With Erling Kagge

The Dave Chang Show

The Ringer

Society & Culture, Arts, Food

4.88.6K Ratings

🗓️ 10 April 2025

⏱️ 90 minutes

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Summary

Dave and Chris discuss the value in learning to take the long way instead of the shortcut. They are then joined by one of the great modern explorers, among other endeavors, Erling Kagge, who talks with them about his mindset and how anyone can take risks and challenge themselves—even in the face of extreme danger. The episode ends with a surprise MOIF. Hosts: Dave Chang and Chris Ying Guest: Erling Kagge Video/Audio Producer: Felipe Guilhermino Majordomo Media Producers: Kelsey Rearden and David Meyer Editor: Stefano Sanchez Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Transcript

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0:00.0

Hello, hello, David here. We have a guest today, and there is somebody that you may not have

0:08.9

heard of. He's Norwegian, number one, number two, I don't know how many people in their lives

0:16.6

have actually completed it as much as this man has.

0:25.4

And three, I've always said Alex Atala might be the most interesting man in the world,

0:31.8

but I feel like today's guest may have supplanted him, the great chef from Brazil.

0:37.1

And his name, if I may butcher it, Arling Kagge.

0:39.6

They were saying as Arling Kagga.

0:40.2

Caga.

0:41.2

Caga.

0:42.2

Caga.

0:46.4

And we'll tell a little bit more about him later, but this guy has done

0:49.3

a little bit everything.

0:51.0

And we have a mutual friend, and

0:52.6

he's got a book out that's translated in

0:55.6

English about his North Pole expedition that he walked. He's done the sort of like the triple

1:06.2

slam of North Pole, South Pole, Mount Everest.

1:17.5

And we're going to talk to him about becoming an explorer and adventure.

1:21.1

But as Chris and I dug a little bit deeper, we felt that we may have stumbled upon somebody that could become a real major domo mayor.

1:29.4

The major domo of major domoing.

1:31.9

Yeah, he's literally the major domo of major domoing.

1:34.6

If that makes no sense, well, hopefully well in a second.

1:38.7

And we're going to start off with a little bit of amusings on doing things the long way,

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