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War on the Rocks

Emails and Influence: Investigating Russia's Attack on the U.S. Political System

War on the Rocks

War on the Rocks

News, Politics

4.61.1K Ratings

🗓️ 31 October 2016

⏱️ 45 minutes

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Summary

Revelations over emails are going to be roiling this election season to the very end. This is, in no small part, due to a series of targeted hacks and leaks that cyber-security experts and the U.S. intelligence community have attributed to Russia. In this episode, we address this unprecedented Russian-directed information operations campaign targeting the U.S. presidential election and, indeed, the fundamental legitimacy of the American system of government. From email hacks to electronic voting machines, major vulnerabilities have been exposed and could change how we approach national campaigns forever, not just in the United States but in other democracies as well.  Think I am overstating it? See what you think by the end of this episode. I gathered together an all-star group of experts to help me figure out exactly how this all happened, including Dmitri Alperovitch of Crowdstrike, Ben Buchanan of the Belfer Center, Shane Harris of The Daily Beast, Susan Hennessey of Brookings and Lawfare, Michael Poznansky of the University of Pittsburgh, and Benjamin Wittes of Brookings and Lawfare (who throws down the gauntlet for Sean Hannity). Have a listen!   Ryan Evans is the founder and editor-in-chief of War on the Rocks.

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0:00.0

Welcome to the War on the Rocks podcast on Strategy, Defense and Foreign Affairs.

0:11.4

My name is Ryan Evans.

0:12.4

I'm the Editor-in-chief of Warren The Rocks.

0:14.0

In this episode we address the unprecedented Russian-directed information operations campaign targeting

0:18.5

the U.S. presidential election and indeed the fundamental legitimacy of the American

0:22.3

system of government.

0:24.0

From email hacks to electronic voting machines, major vulnerabilities have been exposed and could

0:27.9

change the way we approach national campaigns forever, not just in the United States

0:32.0

but in other democracies as well.

0:34.0

Think I'm overstating it? See what you think by the end of this episode.

0:38.0

If you follow the news, you've surely heard a lot about the series of leaks from the email accounts of the Democratic National

0:43.4

Committee in a series of former senior leaders and politicos.

0:47.5

I sat down with Shane Harris of the Daily Beast and the Rational Security Podcast in DuPont Circle

0:51.6

and asked him to catch us up.

0:53.0

Well, the first word that we got that the Democratic National Committee had been hacked came in a Washington Post article actually last summer

1:06.2

where it was presented in pretty startling detail actually that the DNC had had this incursion

1:12.2

information have been stolen.

1:13.6

Interestingly at the time it was reported that the hackers had stolen the opposition

1:17.9

research file on Donald Trump.

1:20.3

But we didn't really hear about a Russian attribution until a bit later.

1:23.4

And as it became clearer to me was when I was talking to people in law enforcement,

1:30.0

people in the intelligence community.

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