Elon Musk’s Dark Ideology, with Ben Tarnoff and Quinn Slobodian
Factually! with Adam Conover
Headgum
4.6 • 2.3K Ratings
🗓️ 3 June 2026
⏱️ 99 minutes
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Summary
Elon Musk sucks so bad, dude. We all know this already. Unfortunately, however, he remains one of the most consequential people on the planet. This means that understanding him, his philosophy, and his goals for the planet (and human species) is actually… kinda important. This week, Adam speaks with Ben Tarnoff and Quinn Slobodian, authors of Muskism: A Guide for the Perplexed, about who Elon really is and the dark nature of the ideology he’s trying to inflict upon us. Find Ben and Quinn's book at factuallypod.com/books
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| 0:00.0 | This is a headgum podcast. |
| 0:05.0 | I don't know the truth. |
| 0:08.3 | I don't know the way. |
| 0:10.9 | I don't know what to think. |
| 0:13.6 | I don't know what to say. |
| 0:16.6 | Yeah, but that's all right. |
| 0:19.4 | That's okay. |
| 0:22.0 | I don't know anything. |
| 0:28.0 | Hello, welcome to Factually. |
| 0:29.8 | I'm Adam Conover. |
| 0:30.9 | Thrilled to have you on the show with me again, |
| 0:33.1 | especially because we're talking about Elon Musk again today. |
| 0:36.6 | And, you know, he's often a topic of conversation on this show. |
| 0:41.9 | And that's because, you know, he is a weird and kind of fascinating guy, |
| 0:47.1 | whether it's paying people to play video games for him, |
| 0:50.6 | jumping into women's DMs to see if they're down to be inseminated by him, whether he's |
| 0:56.0 | being a gutter racist on X, the platform that he purchased and then turned into a right-wing |
| 1:02.1 | hate factory. I mean, we have endless proof that the richest man on the planet is also a |
| 1:07.7 | blundering and pathetic loser. That is poetic and it is a lot of fun to talk about if you're a comedian. |
| 1:14.6 | But, you know, we don't just talk about Elon for the clicks and for the laughs. |
| 1:18.1 | The man is also for better or for worse, I would say mostly for worse, extremely consequential on the world that we live in. |
| 1:26.1 | I mean, he helped bring Trump back into power. |
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