So they grew up way out in the bush speaking sango with the locals and living that life and they're just fierce, incredibly intelligent, intrepid people.

The stories, you can't even believe them.

You can't guarantee it.

You can have private lands efforts and they will always be one

transaction away from being a burner away from being reverse.

But I think whether we're thinking about Africa or

whether we're thinking about the West in the United States, it is all about

Habitat. For whatever reason exactly at that post-Dus Bowl time America

comprehensively was ready to make these decisions

was inspired to make these decisions and had the political leadership that was willing to do it.

And I would argue that the most dangerous thing to a democracy is not the fervent

partisan. It's the politically apathetic.

Hello, this is Hal Herring. I'm here with Backcountry Hunters and Anglers

Podcast and Blast. We are at Quinn's Hot Springs, Montana, pretty close to Plains on the Clark Fork River,

right up from where the Clark Fork is in the confluence with the Flathead.

It's a pretty interesting place. We're going to figure out whether we can do this podcast in this

kind of bar early on Sunday morning where people seem to be having a big time

yelling and playing the poker machines. It's a nice winner I guess, but we got some cool stuff to talk about. I'm here with

Elliot Woods. He's a I would say he's one of the best public lands journalists doing public lands issues that's

not all he does by any means but he's I followed his work for years now even

though he's kind of a young fellow at 37. 37.

And he took off like a, he's running like a hundred yard dash.

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