Hello and welcome to Happy Place with me, Fern Cotton. This is the space where we unpack

the stuff we're told we need in order to be happy. And aside for ourselves, what really

makes us tick, that's exactly what today's guest to spend many years doing. It's Ella

Mills.

Wellness came in out of nowhere, exploded and exploded in like a sea of spirulina,

clorella and crystals and there's nothing wrong. I have no problem with any of this and

I think it's really interesting to explore but I do think that there's this sense that

like wellness means, saunas and crystals and moon rituals and things that are just

so, so not tangible to someone who's busy working, busy with family life, whatever your commitments

are. And the idea of sitting down and sprouting keen-waffe 12 hours is just, it's never going

to happen.

Ella has been known as deliciously-enough for almost a decade. Her personal brand is

synonymous with wellness but it was really interesting to learn how her relationship

with that world has changed as she's grown. We also chat about the myth of women having

it all, spoiler alert, we probably can't and that is a-okay.

This episode is sponsored by More Than Insurance. They partnered with Dogs for Good, a charity

that brings people and dogs together to make life possible. In just two years, More Than

have sponsored a number of Dogs for Good puppies and together they provided support to hundreds

of families and individuals affected by disability, dementia, autism and other conditions. Isn't

that just so amazing? I know firsthand that it is so, so important to have a support system

around you and that's exactly what Dogs for Good are providing. That's honestly all I

can hope for happy place to do too. I think there's so much power in listening to other

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