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How To Fail With Elizabeth Day

Elizabeth's New Show: History’s Greatest Fails

How To Fail With Elizabeth Day

Sony Music

Society & Culture

4.79.6K Ratings

🗓️ 7 April 2026

⏱️ 37 minutes

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Summary

In this debut preview episode of History’s Greatest Fails, Elizabeth Day and Dan Jones argue that the story of Richard’s rise and fall (and rise again) is much more modern that you’d first believe. Not least because of the reality-TV-style discovery of his remains under a Leicester council car park in 2022.  To listen to the full mini-series, head to This is History: History’s Greatest Fails wherever you listen to podcasts and on YouTube.  And more about this episode: In many ways, Richard’s alleged ‘failures’ — which include allegedly killing the Princes in the Tower and overseeing the demise of Plantagenet rule — overshadow Richard III as the reformer that also existed. He introduced trial by jury and translated many laws into English. But those facts are not often what’s associated with him. He’s more likely to be seen as the villainous caricature of Shakespeare’s Richard III.  He died at the Battle of Bosworth in 1485. And we haven’t been able to stop talking about him since.  Yes, it’s time to consider the story of England’s last Plantagenet king, Richard III — a centuries-old tangle involving alleged murder, Shakespeare, vanquish and one mighty rediscovery.  – A Sony Music Entertainment production.  Find more great podcasts from Sony Music Entertainment at sonymusic.com/podcasts  To bring your brand to life in this podcast, email podcastadsales@sonymusic.com  Learn more about your ad choices.  Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices  –– Presented by Dan Jones and Elizabeth Day  Producer - Alan Weedon  Senior Producer - Dominic Tyerman Researcher - Phoebe Joyce  Executive Producer - Simon Poole  Executive Producer for Daylight Productions - Elizabeth Day   Executive Producer - Dan Jones Production Manager - Jen Mistri Production coordinator - Eric Ryan Head of content - Chris Skinner  Special thanks to Alex Lawless, Hannah Talbot, and Selina Ream Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

I should have brought it, but I found a photograph.

0:03.3

I was clearing out a box of photographs, which sounds like a task that only happens in novels, but I was actually doing it. I found a photograph of you in my parents' kitchen. I don't know what you were doing there. I do know. It was my 21st birthday party. I remember that party. Do you? Yeah. And when I was looking at the photos, I didn't really remember much, but I was like, no, there's Elizabeth.

0:24.4

I don't think... first birthday party. I remember that party. Do you? Yeah. And when I was looking at the photo,

0:22.3

I didn't really remember much, but I was like, fuck, no, there's Elizabeth. I don't think I really

0:25.4

knew you that well up until that point, because how we met, we were both at university together,

0:31.7

and I was dating your friend. You were. But I remember you being the year below, and at that stage in life,

0:38.6

it feels like a really big age gap. And I was like, who's this young bug? And I don't think

0:46.3

we ever really spoke that much, but I was just aware that you're in the vicinity. And Rick,

0:51.4

my then boyfriend, referred to you as dollar. He did. That was your name as far as I was concerned. But then I was invited as Rick's Plus One, to your 21st. And it was really lovely because, as you say, it was in your family home. There was a marquee. I remember thinking, well, that's grown up. You're making me sound a bit posh. And over the years, we've fallen in and out of contact because our friendship was only

1:13.5

really established through podcasting.

1:17.5

And that's when we reconnected.

1:18.7

And I feel like that's when we had our first proper conversation.

1:22.8

And during the course of that conversation, I remember Richard the third coming up.

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