Well, Pod Squad, here we are.

I want to start by saying a couple things.

First of all, in thinking about doing this interview, this conversation, I have had, you will be

shocked to know that I've been feeling big about it, and I have been thinking about over-preparing

and obsessing about it for a couple reasons.

One being today we are talking with Liz Gilbert, which is already important to me because

I love you and respect you so much.

You are just like if you looked at my heart, a big portion of it would just be dedicated to you.

Okay?

So already it's important to me.

But on top of that, what we're talking about today is your new book, which it's called All the Way to the River. And this is an early interview, but I'm

certain that even by the time it comes out, everyone's going to already be talking about it,

because it's the most beautiful. It's the most beautiful and brutal and transcendent love story that I've ever read.

And it's the most honest and affecting thing that I've ever read, which I always think about every book, new book you put out. But this time I'm really serious.

And because it is, I got to be close-ish to a lot of this while it was going on. We were kind of all in it together, although

there is so much, as I've told you, I read it three times because there's so much that I didn't know that reading it felt.

I read it. The first time I read it, I read it like, like I wasn't even taking it in because it was,

it made me feel sympathy for my close people who read my books when they

don't know all the stuff going on behind the scenes and how. So this weekend, I said to myself,

Glennon, this is the most sacred talk you've had on this podcast.

And the way I used to, I would have completed that sentence was, so you better get your shit together.

You better freak out.

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