Hi and welcome to the working songwriter.

The show where today's best songwriters come to talk shop, I'm your host Joe Pug.

Each episode here we host a distinguished guest and we ask them to go deep on their inspiration

on their process, on the general ups and downs of making a life in music.

So whether you're a grizzled veteran who has polished all of the veneer off of your

recording academy gramophone statuette or else a scrappy upstart who has a notebook filled

with different attempts at an iconic autograph.

This is your show because ultimately it is what every writer seeks most and ironclad

excuse to put off, actually writing.

Hey everybody, it's the first Friday of 2022 and I thank you for joining us.

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