Hey, what's up? It's Ben Greenfield. Get ready for a really entertaining podcast with a

guy whose name I will reveal shortly. That's mysterious enough for you. But before we delve

into today's podcast, let's talk electricity. Specifically, all those folks you see on

made for TV commercials, I guess every commercial is made for TV. Except this one is made for

podcasts, but they're shocking themselves, right? With like the electrodes attached to their

abs. And the fact is, when you look at a lot of these, what are called EMS devices, their

electrical muscle stimulation devices, they use these little microprocessors in them. And they

cycle through different frequency and voltage levels. But the technology, all these things use,

it's actually pretty antiquated antiquated antiquated. It's old. They employ what's called a

static square waveform and really high voltages and frequencies to generate enough muscle recruitment.

And that means all the muscles get recruited at full power. They get held at full power. And then

they get instantly and fully released. That can be harsh on a muscle. It can be good for like

building a muscle and training a muscle. But if you're trying to get rid of soreness, if you're trying

to heal up an injury or if you're trying to recruit a muscle in a pattern that's more natural,

then that stuff doesn't work. So there is this device though that has what's called a dynamic decaying

waveform. That means it grabs your muscle fibers in a way that allows them to properly relax after

the contraction and to move fluid in and out of tissue without causing actual fatigue to the muscle.

And this one's called the Mark Pro M-A-R-C Pro. It's super easy to use. You don't need to

agree in anatomy. You just hunt down whatever area of your body hurts or a sore. You surround it with

these little electrodes. You just slap them on your tissue and they stay there. I like to put like

ice on an ice bandage over the electrode so I can really jack up the electricity. And then you

just more or less shock the painway. I probably shouldn't say shock the painway. That makes it sound

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