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Amicus With Dahlia Lithwick | Law, justice, and the courts

Election Meltdown, Part 2

Amicus With Dahlia Lithwick | Law, justice, and the courts

Slate Audio

News Commentary,, Government, News

4.63.4K Ratings

🗓️ 2 February 2020

⏱️ 34 minutes

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Summary

In the second part of a special five-part series of Amicus, Dahlia Lithwick is joined by election law professor Rick Hasen to take a close look at what happened with Michigan’s failed recounts in 2016, exploring how small mistakes can cause big problems in elections, and why democratic areas seem much more prone to incompetence in election administration.  Rick Hasen’s new book Election Meltdown forms the basis for this special series of Amicus.  Join Slate for the Election Meltdown live show on Feb. 19 in Washington.  Podcast production by Sara Burningham. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Aside from going to war, or maybe the census, holding an election is the most

0:05.7

complicated thing we do as a country. You just expect them to work until they

0:09.8

don't. We need to do more to recruit and train a talented workforce of election

0:14.7

workers on Election Day.

0:20.1

Hi and welcome back to Amicus. This is Slates Podcasts about the law, the rule of

0:25.5

law, the Constitution, and the Supreme Court. I'm Dahlia Lithwick and I cover

0:30.1

those things for Slate and this is the second part of our five part series,

0:34.7

Election Meltdown. Rick Hassan is the author of the book of the same title. He's

0:39.5

also professor of election law at UC Irvine and he's here to help us think about

0:44.9

the increasingly desperate pressing question, can American democracy survive

0:50.5

the 2020 election? You know it's a pretty serious question we're asking but

0:55.5

we're trying to ask it in a way that we'll get people engaged and thinking about

0:59.3

these issues before it's too late. We can't wait till October to worry about

1:02.9

what's going to happen in November. What I asked could possibly go wrong with

1:07.5

November's election. So I've got two scenarios that really worried me. Imagine a

1:13.9

Florida 2000 type situation with Trump in the White House. Then those precincts

1:18.9

can't be counted. Pretty wide scale voter purge. We've been asking civil rights

1:23.2

lawyers, public officials, local journalists, and disinformation experts for

1:27.4

their election doomsday scenarios. Imagine deepfake the night before an

1:32.3

election. A scenario in which people did leave the internet and take much more

1:37.5

physical action. Our system is only going to work if people have enough

1:42.8

confidence in it that they can accept the results. We're not asking these

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