I think you've just seen the playbook for future presidents.

Don't ever give them anything because you saw what happened in Nixon.

He was forced to resign.

Trump looked at the way he played it.

He just refused.

He refused to recognize a co-equal branch of government.

And he prevailed.

That's the way you win.

Hi and welcome back to Amicus.

This is Slates Podcast about the courts and the law, the Constitution, the rule of law

impeachment.

And I guess maybe now the wheels finally coming off constitutional democracy as we know it.

I'm Dahlia Lithwick.

I cover all those things except perhaps the last for Slate.

And where you are right now, it's probably possibly Saturday morning, but where I am right

now, it's actually Friday afternoon.

That means that we are in the middle still in my head of an historic impeachment trial

in the Senate, which may or may not actually be over by the time this show turns up in

your feeds.

Let's just briefly adapt the Chinese blessing slash curse.

May we all live infractionally less interesting times.

So okay, tomorrow, Sunday, we're going to be bringing you the promised second episode

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