El Clasico: Civil War, Conspiracies And Scandal With Sid Lowe
It Was What It Was : The Football History Podcast
The Overlap
4.9 • 667 Ratings
🗓️ 22 October 2024
⏱️ 65 minutes
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Summary
This week on It Was What It Was, we're talking one of football's greatest rivalries: Real Madrid and Barcelona.
In the week of El Clasico, Spanish football expert Sid Lowe joins Rob and Jonathan to discuss the history, politics and scandal behind possibly the biggest club match in football.
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| 0:00.0 | I want to refer to the presence of a club, a club that says it feels harmed, |
| 0:12.0 | a club that has always been favoured by refereeing decisions, |
| 0:15.9 | and has been considered the team of the regime because of their proximity to political and economic power. |
| 0:21.9 | Well, welcome to It Was What It Was, with me, Rob Draper and with Jonathan Wilson, and that was |
| 0:26.9 | Trana La Porta, the president of Barcelona in April, 2023. He was ostensibly commenting |
| 0:32.6 | on the Casso Negreira, the refereeing scandal that Barcelona had become embroiled in. But as we're going to |
| 0:39.0 | explore this episode, that that comment was really incendiary and set off a chain of responses |
| 0:44.5 | that really opened up the fissures in a way of the Spanish Civil War and prompted an extraordinary |
| 0:51.5 | response from Real Madrid that I think will mar relations for many years |
| 0:56.6 | between the two clubs. And to analyse that in the week of the classical, because it is |
| 1:00.8 | Real Madrid against Barcelona this week, and to tell us why the Spanish Civil War and politics |
| 1:06.9 | runs so deep into that game and to explain why Real Madrid responded in the way they did. |
| 1:13.3 | We have an amazing guest. We have the author of Fear and Loathing in La Liga. We have the host of |
| 1:19.4 | the Spanish football podcast and the Guardian's Spanish football correspondent in Madrid. Sid, |
| 1:24.9 | Sidd, thank you so much for joining us today. |
| 1:27.5 | Very much. Your pleasure. How are you doing? We're very good. Sid, Lowe, Sid, thank you so much for joining us today. Very much, your pleasure. How are you doing? |
| 1:28.9 | We're very good. Sid, can you just talk us through the context to Leporto's comments |
| 1:33.7 | and the video that Real Madrid put out to respond to it? It was astonishing, wasn't it? |
| 1:39.0 | Yeah, it was. And I must admit that, you know, despite the very nice introduction you've just |
| 1:43.2 | given me, and despite the fact that in the kind of the noise that there was over the two or three days |
| 1:50.5 | that followed that. And a lot of people saying to me, well, now's your time to wade into this. |
| 1:55.3 | I couldn't be bothered because I just thought, oh, this is just going to get ridiculous and nasty. |
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