Welcome to Breaking Down Patriarchy. I'm Amy McPhee, All the Best. Longtime listeners might remember an especially

excellent episode during our second season when public intellectual Gabrielle Blair, also known as

Design Mom, joined us to discuss abortion rights. We specifically discussed Gabrielle's viral

Twitter thread in which she

challenged men to take responsibility for their ejaculations, writing, quote, if you want to

stop abortion, you need to prevent unwanted pregnancies, and men are 100% responsible for

unwanted pregnancies, end quote. I remember my jaw dropped when I first read

that radical reframing of the narrative, taking the blame off of the women who suffer from

unwanted pregnancies, and instead holding men accountable for their actions. If you missed that

episode, I definitely recommend scrolling back to season two,

episode 17, and having a listen. Gabrielle is absolutely brilliant. And in case you haven't heard,

since that episode's release, her original Twitter thread has been expanded, revised, and published

as a book, The New York Times Best Seller, Ejaculate Responsibly, a whole new way to think about abortion.

It's a phenomenal read, and just a few weeks ago, I was lucky enough to sit down with Ben Blair,

Gabriel's husband, and an active contributor to their ejaculate responsibly project.

He wanted to flip the script and interview me as a reader of the book

and as a huge supporter of their mission.

So that's the episode we'll be sharing today.

Here's Ben Blair and I talking about Gabrielle Blair's essential text,

Ejaculate Responsibly.

Enjoy.

Okay. Okay. Hello, Amy.

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