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So I invited Eileen Fisher on. You're going to hear from her. I'll introduce her in a moment.

She's a huge name in the fashion industry. And in many ways I thought to borrow a phrase

that I used in my book, I thought that this interview was going to be kind of like a two

animal species trying to talk to one other who are like not of the same species. Like a lizard

trying to talk to a goat because we're so different. But she's incredibly interesting.

And I learned a lot. And I think you'll hear some huge areas of overlap. So here you

go. Here's Eileen Fisher.

So maybe see this is the 10% happier podcast. I'm Dan Harris.

I'm going to start with a question that I ask everybody at first, which is how when,

where, why did you start meditating?

Oh, great. Love that question. Okay. So I think I'm a person who's sort of always been kind

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