EFR 915: Why Money Is the #1 Reason Relationships Fail, Why You Should Never Fall in Love With Potential and Why Your Partner Is Your Biggest Financial Decision with Pattie Ehsaie
Ever Forward Radio with Chase Chewning
Chase Chewning
5 • 927 Ratings
🗓️ 18 December 2025
⏱️ 58 minutes
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What if the most important financial decision you ever make has nothing to do with investing, real estate, or your career—but who you choose as your partner? In this powerful episode of Ever Forward Radio, Chase sits down with attorney, financial expert, and author Pattie Ehsaie for a no-nonsense conversation about money, power, relationships, and financial independence—especially for women. Pattie breaks down why "never falling in love with potential" isn't cold, it's practical; why money remains the number one cause of relationship failure; and how financial independence is not about greed, but freedom. Drawing from her own journey as an immigrant, lawyer, and self-made financial authority, Pattie shares hard truths about hustle, mindset, modern dating dynamics, the "lonely male epidemic," stealth wealth, prenups, and why owning your financial future is the ultimate form of personal sovereignty.
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00:00 – Why Your Partner Is Your Biggest Financial Decision
01:35 – Meet Pattie Ehsaie & Her Core Philosophy on Money and Power
02:04 – "Never Fall in Love With Potential" Explained
04:10 – Dating a Broke Mindset vs a Broke Bank Account
04:56 – When You Support a Man, You Become His Mother
07:00 – Financial Red Flags Most Women Ignore
11:10 – The Money Talk: Credit Scores, Savings & Debt
12:09 – Why Money Is the #1 Reason Relationships Fail
13:33 – Why Men Fake Wealth (And Women Don't)
18:15 – What Happens When the Provider Loses Everything
23:20 – Why Financial Independence = Power
25:10 – Women Out-Earning Men & the "Lonely Male Epidemic"
29:18 – What's Wrong with Andrew Tate's Money Narrative
31:48 – How to Be a "Rich B*tch": The 5-Account System
36:28 – Why Starting to Invest Late Costs You Hundreds of Thousands
38:16 – Hustle vs a Broke Mindset
41:27 – Prenups, Assets & Protecting Your Future
42:53 – Women Who Did Money Right (Oprah, Taylor Swift)
44:36 – Fake Rich vs Real Rich (Why Housewives Go Broke)
50:13 – Pattie's Immigrant Story & Relentless Work Ethic
55:38 – Ever Forward
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| 0:00.0 | The following is an Operation Podcast production. |
| 0:03.7 | What if the most important financial decision you ever make has nothing to do with investing, |
| 0:10.3 | real estate, or your career? |
| 0:12.9 | What if it's who you choose to build your life with? |
| 0:17.9 | Today's conversation started with a sentence that stopped me cold, never fall in love with |
| 0:22.5 | potential. Because the wrong partner won't just slow you down, they can quietly drain your |
| 0:28.7 | ambition, your confidence, and your future. In this episode, we talk about why money is still the number |
| 0:35.8 | one reason relationships fail, why financial |
| 0:39.7 | independence isn't about greed, it's about freedom, and why relying on love without alignment |
| 0:46.0 | can cost you everything. My guest built her life from nothing, an immigrant at seven years old, |
| 0:52.7 | working multiple jobs, fighting dyslexia, |
| 0:55.2 | ADHD, and self-doubt, and refusing to stay stuck. She's blunt, she's unapologetic, |
| 1:02.5 | and she's here to challenge everything we've been taught about money, power, and partnership. |
| 1:08.3 | Because when one person controls the money, they often control the rules. |
| 1:13.6 | This is a conversation about hustle over excuses, mindset over comfort, and why Ever Forward |
| 1:20.0 | means never outsourcing your power financially, emotionally, or mentally. |
| 1:25.8 | I'm Chase Tuning and welcome to Ever Forward Radio. |
| 1:35.4 | But we're here today to talk about several different things, but really talking about |
| 1:41.1 | money smarts, decorum and social work life, and truly empowerment for women predominantly. |
| 1:47.8 | And we're going to be delivering some game-changing insights from your book and your work and your content. |
| 1:52.8 | On why choosing really the, excuse me, on why choosing the right partner is going to be the biggest financial decision. |
| 2:00.7 | Anyone, particularly a woman, |
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