Hello and welcome to episode 2063 of Effectively Wild, a fan-graphed space bulb podcast brought

to you by our Patreon supporters. I'm Meg Raleigh, a fan-graphed, and I am joined as always by Ben Lemberger, the ringer Ben Howreo.

Right, how are you?

Packing a backpack.

Hmm, okay.

But otherwise...

Last time we talked about AJ Preller's sleep schedule, the lack of sleep, and now I'm wondering whether you say Kakuchi has stolen all of his sleep somehow.

Maybe it's like there can only be a certain number of hours between the two of them.

And it's just that Kakuchi is hoarding them all, and Preller can't sleep anymore.

Let's see. How do I want to engage with this hilarious story?

How did you first hear about Kakuchi's sleep habits?

I heard about it for the first time, actually, on the Mariners' broadcast, because one thing that happens when your baseball team is playing the Oakland athletics,

and they are doing what they should do against the Oakland athletics, which is win.

You kind of like, sometimes you don't have a lot to hang around, because they're winning, and they're supposed to do that.

And it starts to feel like a Fargon conclusion at some point.

And so I heard Aaron Goldsmith and Mike Blower is talking about this on the Mariners' broadcast, and as it was relayed to me by them,

they relayed it via Caitlin McGrath, who's the beat writer for the Blue Jays for the Athletic.

The Kakuchi sleeps 12 to 13 hours a night.

Yeah, that was the first mention I saw.

Yeah, that was the first mention I saw.

And I'm going to admit to having an instinctual kind of unfun response to that, which was to think,

he's married and has a kid.

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