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Effectively Wild: A FanGraphs Baseball Podcast

Effectively Wild Episode 2062: Competing Padres Postmortems

Effectively Wild: A FanGraphs Baseball Podcast

Ben Lindbergh, Meg Rowley

Sports, Baseball

4.72.7K Ratings

🗓️ 20 September 2023

⏱️ 96 minutes

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Ben Lindbergh and Meg Rowley banter about the five-year anniversary of a Twitter wager about Adalberto Mondesi and Shohei Ohtani, then compare and contrast two in-depth articles about the problems supposedly plaguing the Padres and discuss how convincing they find those reports’ explanations for the team’s disappointing season (plus additional banter about the possible reasons for recently successful former Padre Mike Clevinger going unclaimed on waivers, and a few follow-ups).

Audio intro: Josh Busman, “Effectively Wild Theme
Audio outro: Nate Emerson, “Effectively Wild Theme

Link to Bill James tweet
Link to Union-Tribune on the Padres
Link to The Athletic on the Padres
Link to Rob Mains on the Padres
Link to Ginny Searle on the Padres
Link to Pythag record wiki
Link to story on Machado’s elbow
Link to FG hitting clutch
Link to FG pitching clutch
Link to Ben’s RISP prediction episode
Link to RISP through 5/25
Link to RISP since 5/25
Link to info on Padres in extras
Link to Soto quote
Link to Soto follow-up quote
Link to BaseRuns records
Link to article on Anthony Young
Link to payroll-record correlation info
Link to pitcher WAR since 7/29
Link to MLBTR on Clevinger
Link to Clevinger/Smith kerfuffle
Link to statement on Ohtani
Link to Ohtani’s insta post
Link to tweet about Ohtani
Link to first Moyer statement
Link to second Moyer statement
Link to article on Gas Plant District

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0:00.0

More than 2,000 episodes retro-spectively filed, and at each new one we still collectively smile

0:11.0

That's effectively wild.

0:21.0

Hello and welcome to episode 2062 of Effectively Wild, a baseball podcast from Pangraphs presented by our Patreon supporters.

0:29.0

I'm Ben Lindbergh of The Ringer, joined by Meg Rally of Pangraphs. Hello, Meg.

0:34.0

Hello.

0:35.0

If I sound especially jubilant today, it's because it's really a landmark day for me.

0:41.0

You know why listeners may remember, but probably won't unless they've set up a Google Alert to remind them about this.

0:49.0

That five years ago, five years ago, today, in fact, a tweet or a series of tweets was sent

0:57.0

that I have caused myself to recall, low these many years later.

1:03.0

We discussed this first, I believe, on episode 1960, back in late January,

1:09.0

because the Red Sox had acquired Adelbert O'Mondis, which gave me an excuse to bring up an exchange that occurred on Twitter this time in 2018

1:21.0

between Bill James and one at JMC underscore PGH about who had the better career outlook

1:34.0

who would end up with the most career war, Adelbert O'Mondis, or Shohei Otani.

1:42.0

And at JMC underscore PGH, sorry, I can't make that sound snappier, said,

1:48.0

I would bet a significant amount of money that Otani will be greater than Mondisi in career war,

1:54.0

because Bill James had tweeted that although Mondisi was not eligible for the rookie of the year award,

2:00.0

he seemed like Bill said, obviously, the best new player of the year.

2:04.0

And that was a year when Shohei Otani was a new player in Major League Baseball, at least.

2:10.0

And in response to that response, Bill said, Commissioner doesn't allow me to bet he was still working for the Red Sox at that time.

2:18.0

And I don't have a significant amount of money, but I'll graciously accept your apology in five years, and five years now have passed.

2:27.0

And the reply to his reply was fair enough, gentlemen's wager than it's rare that I find myself disagreeing with you.

2:35.0

And Bill said, we'll try to remember it. And I said, there is no try.

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