When you're outside and you're down sides of

Yeah, you're up sides right

Yeah, I'm gonna make you wanna twist and shout when you're inside out

Hello and welcome to episode 1118 of Effectively Wild, a baseball podcast from Fangrass presented

by our Patreon supporters.

My name is Ben Lindbergh, I'm a writer for The Ringer and joined as always by Jeff Sullivan of Big

I'm not going to talk about baseball for the rest of the episode, there's no graceful way to pull off that transition, I don't think I will spare you any thoughts about baseball being a distraction at times like this etc etc but we've as a country keep finding ourselves or putting ourselves in this situation and our thoughts are on one level about baseball and the playoffs and what we're about to talk about and on another level as always.

I'm not going to talk about baseball in this place but you can't really I guess expect everything to stop, we're here if you want to listen, if you don't want to listen, you don't have to do it, if you don't want to read, you don't have to do it, if you want to just focus all of your mental energy on helping, I fully encourage you to do so.

Help in Las Vegas, help in Puerto Rico, help in the Virgin Islands, just help however you intend to help and when you need some sort of five minutes of mental relief we're here to talk to you about John J. So in his hell, but that's right.

John J. So is bringing the peace of mind that we need these days, yeah we're going to do a general playoff previewie episode, of course the playoffs are about to begin, the regular season is over but a few things we wanted to banter about beginning with J. So who sounds like he might call it a career and he is of course famous to effectively wild listeners for being the original user of the phrase such as baseball and such as life and he has taken that fill

with his own life and it sounds as if he might be done with baseball, he said in a story that was published this weekend, traveling, living simply, being anonymous, that sort of stuff, that's his post baseball plans, really I just want to live a simple life, I have a sailboat, so I just want to sail away.

If you live on a sailboat, it's really hard to live complicated, you have to keep things simple, so that's kind of my catalyst and everything and my ride and my home and he says his mind is going elsewhere these days and I think a lot of us know the feeling not a lot of us probably sailing away on a sailboat but maybe we would like to.

I wonder, I have an easier time relating to sort of the Daniel Norris van life kind of lifestyle, I know very little about boating but I would assume that living on a boat is not markedly different from living in a van, the van life is a lot more common among sort of the dirt bags, the hikers, the climbers, the mountaineers and the boat life I'm not entirely sure but I would assume that there are people of similar mindsets similar living simply sort of a sort of perspective and so I already kind of had a hundred years ago.

I think I've had a bunch that horrible, horrible dreadlocks aside that John J. Sue and I have sort of shared a number of world outlooks and even though I am not in position to take my 17 million dollars and go live off the grid, I am glad that he's able to, I guess he hasn't started but he's able to at least think about living out his dream, living anonymously and you know, you could say that perhaps he didn't go into too much tremendous detail but perhaps John J. Sue will go from living as a pirate to living as a pirate.

Could be, yeah, if anyone is interested in the John J. Sue lifestyle but doesn't have a sailboat isn't quite ready to take the plunge, there is one way you could get a simulation of this. I don't normally make video game recommendations on this podcast but I do do a video game podcast called Achievement Oriented at the ringer and we did an interview not long ago with the creator of a game called Sail Away which is a sailing simulator that you can get on PC on Steam and it models the entire world.

So you can sail anywhere you want, everything is realistic, they have real time weather patterns so if there's a storm somewhere in the world you can sail there in Sail Away and be inside that storm.

The ocean is the color that it is in real life everywhere in the world, it's a very peaceful game so if you don't have the means that Jason does but you want to pursue the lifestyle look into Sail Away.

You could also just sort of make yourself sick just rock back and forth for several hours at a time, yeah, pee in a bucket and throw up a lot don't shower just you can live you can live the boat life on land you just have to make a lot of sacrifice that's right.

So it is the end of the regular season. Do you have any closing thoughts on that perhaps Dodgers related? Okay, so first of all feel bad.

Brewers Mr. playoffs by one game shouldn't have had so many back breaking losses in the final few weeks. They're fault anyway. Too bad for them good for the Rockies.

So in closing, the story of I guess late August early September stretching into mid September was how the Indians were amazing and unbeatable and the Dodgers were terrible or at least had turned for the terrible.

I don't know if there was some sort of mucky spa arrangement that they made but the Dodgers collapsed and you already know all this wonderful listeners but on August 23rd after play I think it was on August 23rd August 23rd I'm just going to keep saying that August 23rd the gap between the Dodgers and the Indians was 20 games.

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