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Thank you to Haley for booking my guests for me. The guest on this edition we're going to have a long conversation with Nick Pope, former M.O.D. UFO man.

This was on my radio show recently so it comes from there but like everything that I do at the moment it's being prepared at my home.

So you know it's the whole thing about lockdown it continues and as I speak these words it is actually like 34 degrees Celsius into the 90s Fahrenheit.

So it's pretty hard and sticky stuff still here in the United Kingdom. Who knows what the weather will do next but I know that some of you do not like me as a Brit constantly harping on about the weather so that is all I will say about it.

Apart from the fact that it's damn hot here right now so Nick Pope coming up. Thank you very much for all of your emails like I say.

Thank you to James in Houston, Texas. James has been telling me how that he's listening to the show while he builds a Ford truck from the ground up.

You know I love engineering and I love vehicles but I'm practically useless when it comes to them and to think that somebody has the skill to do that is just amazing and thank you for listening to my shows.

While you do that James thank you from Cala in Winnipeg Canada. Thank you very much for your communication and for the story that you told me Cala in Winnipeg and Carolin thank you very much for sending me a video that we think is a fake ultimately but a very well produced fake if indeed it is.

It is of a mermaid appearing close to the ocean floor you know these things may still exist but we need to get more firmly documented proof than perhaps on that video but it was nice to hear from you Carolin.

Nice to hear from you if you've emailed over the last seven days or so I've gotten more emails now than I've ever had at the unexplained it's always good to hear what you think get your thoughts and guest suggestions and you know reflections on how you're dealing with continuing lockdown which is a very good thing.

We've got to be a factor which as we say continues to be a fact for all of us all many many of us if you're listening in New Zealand or Australia that's that you know disregard that statement because I know things are a lot easier for you there.

Okay let's get to the United States now to another hot place and Nick Pope former M O D UFO man now independent investigated Nick Pope thank you very much indeed for listening to all of that how are you.

I'm good thank you and I'm speaking to you from Tucson in the great state of Arizona and it's pretty hot here to in barren height I guess it's been a hundred plus for the last few days but you cope with it I mean we're not going to talk about the weather too much but you cope with it much better there in the United States than we ever would.

Well I guess I've become a climatized to it now I've been here since January of 2012 so I'm getting used to it yes.

Or as they say in America acclimated love the way they say that. Okay now I said at the beginning of this that you were with the Ministry of Defence and I think it's just a good idea because there will be new people hearing this either online on the replay or they'll be hearing it on Sunday night into Monday morning just talk to me about what your role with the Ministry of Defence in London used to be.

Sure thing well I worked for the MOD for 21 years and I had about seven or eight different postings during that time but I'm best known for a job I did in the early 90s and my my brief was to research and investigate the UFO phenomenon to determine whether there was anything in any of these reports that was a potential threat was of any defense.

Significance or any more general scientific interest and we got about two or three hundred reports each year I had to investigate them but I had to do anything else related to the subject whether it was setting the policy briefing defense ministers drafting responses when this issue was raised in Parliament as it was from time to time and dealing with the media inquiries I would have to be dry I was the one who drafted the material.

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