Ed Luce on an America—and a World—Divided

The Good Fight

Yascha Mounk

News

4.6 • 907 Ratings

🗓️ 29 April 2023

⏱️ 50 minutes

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Summary

Ed Luce is the US national editor and columnist at the Financial Times. He is also a member of the Persuasion board of advisors. In this week’s conversation, Yascha Mounk and Ed Luce discuss the prospects for Trump (and Trumpism) in the near future; why America no longer feels like a “can-do” nation; and whether America can defend its values in the world while avoiding escalation with China. This transcript has been condensed and lightly edited for clarity. Please do listen and spread the word about The Good Fight. If you have not yet signed up for our podcast, please do so now by following this link on your phone. Email: [email protected] Website: http://www.persuasion.community Podcast production by John Taylor Williams, and Brendan Ruberry Connect with us! Spotify | Apple | Google Twitter: @Yascha_Mounk & @joinpersuasion Youtube: Yascha Mounk LinkedIn: Persuasion Community Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0	The Economist provides independent journalism for independent thinking and has been
0:05.1	championing progress for almost 200 years.
0:08.3	With the Economist, you gain access to fact-based, deeply researched expert analysis of world events and topics
0:14.3	ranging from business and culture to politics, science and technology.
0:18.2	Tune into the global conversation with reporting from correspondence around the world, available in-app online through
0:25.0	podcasts and print.
0:26.6	So for fact sake, search the economist.
0:31.0	We're not going to go back to the party of Jeb Bush. The question is whether there are going to be more
0:36.2	electable versions of Trump, which is why I think the person to fear here would be Glenn
0:41.2	the youngkin, who has all the same views maybe pragmatically maybe
0:45.8	don't deep down but who really cares it's what people articulate in public that
0:50.4	we measure Glenn Youngkin has all the same views but he gives the
0:53.8	appearance of being a suburban dad he's reassuring. That's more the future of
0:58.4	the Republican Party post-Trump if Trump loses.
1:01.1	And now the good fight with Yasha Monk.
1:07.0	A number of days ago, Diane Abbott, a long-standing Labour MP in the United Kingdom and the closest ally to Jeremy Corbyn, with whom she once shared a bicycling holiday in still communist East Germany,
1:28.0	wrote a letter to the Guardian.
1:31.6	Responding to an article from Tomiwa O'Lade, one of the earliest contributors to persuasion, she claimed
1:40.3	that it is wrong to say that Irish, Jewish or traveler people suffer from racism.
1:46.0	It is true that many types of white people, points of difference such as redheads,
1:50.0	can experience prejudice, she claimed, that they are not over life subject to racism.
1:59.0	The letter understandably caused a giant controversy in the United Kingdom.
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