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Richard, thanks for doing this. It's a great pleasure and honor to be here.

I think of the claim that we went to war with Iran because of its nuclear program is a kind of IQ test.

Anyone who repeats that claim has failed the test.

As you pointed out, many times, all wars are engineered.

And we're just having a discussion of breakfast that I think is worth recounting for others.

So First World War, one of the most momentous events in world history, ended Christian Europe, killed more than 20 million people, wounded another 20 million, just really reordered the globe and then led to the Second World War.

So the United States joined that war in 1917.

Toward the end, it had already been going for three years. But one of the main reasons the U.S. got into that war in 1917, toward the end. It had already been going for three years.

But one of the main reasons the U.S. got into that war is because the sinking of a passenger ship

called the Lusitania off the coast of Ireland two years before in 1915, in which 120 out

Americans were killed, it was sunk by a German U-boat. And even at the time, there were people who said, I don't think this is, this is not quite on the level.

But now, 112 years later, we know a lot more about the sinking of Lusitania.

And I wonder if you wouldn't just mind recounting

what you said to me this morning at breakfast, because it gives us perspective on the effect

of propaganda in wartime. Right. Yes, I mean, the sinking was clearly a key factor in

creating in the media in America anti-German sentiment quite successfully.

And so, yeah, the question is what happened really. The way it's presented was, well, there's a

passenger ship with American passengers, you know, just civilians traveling across the Atlantic and sunk by a German submarine.

Well, that's like an act of war against America. Yes. I've got to do something in traveling across the Atlantic and sunk by a German submarine,

well, that's like an act of war against America.

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