Eclipse in Quarantine: Snap Decision
Hot and Bothered
Not Sorry Productions
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🗓️ 10 February 2021
⏱️ 23 minutes
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Summary
CW: discussion of suicidal ideation, graphic violence, and abuse
We really only planned to skip one chapter in this book, but then Chapter 23 went and happened. Chapter 23 is a minefield of sexual and emotional abuse and we thought: 'You know what would be more fun than recording an episode on this nonsense? Not recording an episode on this nonsense.' So we moved on to Chapter 24. And don't worry, Chapter 24 still has plenty of problematic things to discuss! Topics include dismembering vampires and whether or not Bella actually stabs herself during the battle scene.
We also announce some extra Breaking News in this episode: We've decided not to read Breaking Dawn chapter by chapter. Honestly we can't keep subjecting ourselves to these books. Instead, we're going to do one episode covering all of Breaking Dawn, and then launch a new romance novel related mini-series in June. (More on that to come!) Until then, we'll be watching Eclipse and both Breaking Dawn movies with our patrons on Patreon and discussing all our feels in some bonus episodes. It's a bittersweet announcement, we know, but we hope you'll stay with us as we move onto new and exciting romance projects!
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| 0:00.0 | Hi, everyone. Before we start today's episode, we want to offer a trigger warning for all the things discussed in these chapters. |
| 0:08.0 | So suicide, assault, fighting and war and death, self-harm, it's all in here. We try to make it fun, but please take care of yourself. |
| 0:21.0 | Chapter 24. Snap Decision. |
| 0:26.0 | I lay face down across the sleeping bag, waiting for justice to find me. Maybe an avalanche would bury me here. |
| 0:33.0 | I wished it would. I never wanted to have to see my face in the mirror again. |
| 0:38.0 | I'm Julia Argi, and I'm Vanessa Zoltan, and this top-bothered twilight quarantine. |
| 0:51.0 | Now I know what many of you are thinking. You're thinking, wait, that's the beginning of chapter 24. |
| 0:57.0 | And we should be on chapter 23, but do you know what we did again? Julia, what did we do? Skip. |
| 1:04.0 | Exactly. We're playing another skip card, because chapter 23 is trash. |
| 1:11.0 | In this chapter, Jacob is like, I'm going to kill myself unless you kiss me. And then he physically holds Bella against him until she acquiesces and kisses him back. |
| 1:25.0 | And then she somehow convinces herself that she is in love with Jacob, because her body had like a physical response to being kissed. |
| 1:37.0 | Like new evidence of Jacob's penchant for assaulting and manipulating Bella show up in chapter 23. |
| 1:47.0 | But we don't have anything new to say about it. It's just more awful. And also we hated reading it. It's so rapey. |
| 2:00.0 | And we just don't think you want to hear about that is you like tune into a fun comedy adjacent podcast comedy striving podcast comedy attempt podcast. |
| 2:13.0 | Yeah. For the last, I don't know 600 pages of the series. We've heard Jacob say again and again that Bella is in love with him. And Bella always says no. |
| 2:24.0 | And I think Vanessa and I have been understanding that as Bella not being in love with him. |
| 2:30.0 | But recently it's become clear that like the overarching plot and like emotions of the book actually think that Bella is in love with him. |
| 2:39.0 | And this chapter really solidifies that where it's like all these chapters when Bella was saying no, she actually just didn't know what she wanted. |
| 2:47.0 | It's like a fun dramatic realization as opposed to how Vanessa and I have been reading it, which was like incredibly depressing and tragic. |
| 2:57.0 | It definitely doesn't respect the idea that no means no. It's saying women don't know what they want. |
| 3:03.0 | You shouldn't believe when they when they say no, they will eventually say yes. |
| 3:07.0 | Very sad to see that happen on the page. I don't recommend reading it. I don't recommend talking about it. |
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