Hey, everybody. Welcome back to Bullwork Takes. I'm Sunny Bunch. I'm culture editor at the Bullwork.

I'm joined here by Jonathan Cohn, who is wearing a mask because we are discussing outbreak movies, virus movies, contagion movies on the show today.

Because, you know, we got bad things in the air, Jonathan, which I know this is why you're wearing masks.

We got Hanta virus on cruise ships. We got Ebola in Africa. We got bad things in the air, Jonathan, which I know this is why you're wearing the mask. We got hauntavirus on cruise ships. We got Ebola in Africa. We got the occasional monkey pox still coming out. It's a nightmare out there. Jonathan, we are remote, though. So I think you can take off the mask. I think the people want to see your face. You can't be too careful, you know. It can't be too careful.

Actually, you can't be too careful. But yeah. Well, that's, this is one of my takeaways from, from this series of movies that we are looking at today. Let's just, let's just set the stage for folks, though, because this is a little bit random. They're like, oh, we're doing, we're doing virus movies. But it's not because things are bad, right? Things don't seem good right now, John.

They're not good. You know, we've had in the last month, right, give or take, we've had two outbreaks of concern.

One is this hauntavirus outbreak on a on a passenger ship in the South Atlantic?

Haanta virus is this disease. Normally only get it from rodents, but there's one version that can be transmitted between people. It seems to be people on this boat have gotten it and someone,

you know, we've already had some deaths from it. There are people around the world. We're tracing,

we're contacting several in the United States. We're watching.

It is a potentially fatal disease. And then more recently, we've gotten a word of a major outbreak of Ebola in Central Africa. This one's really, I think, you know, if you talk to the people in public health,

a lot scarier because Ebola, the numbers, we're catching this one late, the toll in these Democratic Republic of the Congo, Uganda. That area could be

quite devastating. Now, jokes aside about the mask, no one I've talked to thinks we need to

worry about another pandemic here in the United States. But these are very serious problems.

And they highlight gaps in our global health system, a lot of which have gotten worse because

Donald Trump has basically taken a wrecking ball to the agencies and programs we have to protect

us against these diseases. Yeah. I mean, the gutting of the various USAID programs, you know, are, I don't know how

to describe exactly our antipathy towards the WHO, you know, it's not, it does not seem like a

great moment for, for a series of deadly, not that there's ever a good moment for Ebola

unless I'm not sure watching a Wolfgang Peterson movie but we'll get to that we'll get to

we will get to uh all of this in a minute here all right so we're talking about three movies today

and the way I have kind of structured this is going from most realistic

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