Money bleeds into every part of life.

It's in our identity, our communication, our daily habits.

I mean, everything.

So today, one of my favorite guests, he's been on before, but he is back.

Jefferson Fisher is here to talk about some wisdom when it comes to communication and conflict and how to do

this well because let's be honest not all of us are great at it so make sure to like subscribe

and share this episode with a friend all right here's our conversation Jefferson thanks for

being here thanks so much for having yeah last time we talked it was like via zoom this is much

better it's from I know I know and yeah it's fun. It's good. I love it. Your space is awesome. Yeah. Thank you. Thank you. Okay. So I love all the content that you put out. I was just telling you before we hit record that I feel like I pull up Instagram and I'm like I see you everywhere. And your whole message is really caught on. So give me like a brief summary. Like how would you explain to someone what you do?

I teach people how to communicate.

Where somebody might teach you how to play an instrument, I teach you the chords.

I teach you the notes to play.

I give you the words.

So I teach you how to say things with confidence. I teach you how to say things calmly and make sure you have control, which, as you know, leads to connection. Oh, which, yeah. See, all the good words. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I was going to ask, what is the biggest mistake you see with people? When they are communicating, and especially with conflicts, like some disagreement starts to happen in the conversation.

What do you see and exert, like when you observe people, you're like, oh, that's, that was a mistake.

That was it.

That was a mistake.

The biggest mistake is people think that just because you say it, it's heard the exact same way.

So just because you sent it that way, that's exactly how they receive it.

That's rarely the case. I could say something to you and that's not at all how you heard it. Why? Because you know you've been in those arguments with your spouse, with your friend, and you go, that's not what I said. And like, yes, you did. And what do they do? They go, okay, tell me, Tell me what I said.

You kind of challenged them.

Okay, tell me what I said.

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