I want the first voice I hear in the morning to be the voice of God in the Scriptures.

There is something so important for my soul that happened in those first moments

of not rushing through God's Word. I try not to read God's Word in a hurry. I want to linger over God's Word.

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So the Lent season is starting and I was thinking about you because you used to go to church on Easter.

What do you remember the most about those Easter services as a kid growing up?

I remember I had to go because mom said it's Easter we're going to church, which she said every Sunday.

Which I didn't go so. Yeah I mean that was a good thing. Yeah good for your mom.

There were times I didn't want to go but you know my single mom did a phenomenal job of

bringing Jesus into my life and I didn't even really know it or appreciate it. But I do remember

sitting there even you know from a little boy to a teenager not understanding the story.

Like how does the resurrection of Jesus Christ mean anything to me and to our world right now?

I just sat there and never could connect the dots. I think that's true for a lot of people when

especially when they didn't grow up in the church. And you had a chance to sit down with David

Mathis who wrote the book Rich Wounds and I'm excited for our listeners get to hear this conversation.

Yeah because what David did is he connects the dots. I mean his book Rich Wounds is all about

the wounds of Christ and what that means for us but also the triumph of Christ over the cross

and the resurrection. David is the executive director of DesiringGod.org and a pastor of

city's church in Minneapolis also husband and it's got four kids as well and I'm telling you what

you talk about a theologian who's going to dive deep into understanding not only the life and

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