I don't know what those white people in this country feel,

but I can only include what they feel from the state of their institutions.

Now, this is the evidence.

You want me to make an act of faith, risking myself, my wife, my woman, my sister, my children on some idealism which you assure me

in America, which I have never seen.

Welcome to Black History for White People, a podcast where we educate, resource, and challenge

white people about black history.

I'm Brad, and on today's show are my co-host Katina and Garron. And we're

also joined by Adam Griffin, who's a pastor at Eastside Community Church in East Dallas and has an

educational background studying the historical context of racial division in Dallas. Today's topic is

East Dallas. This is part two, so if you haven't listened to Part 1, make sure to go back and take a listen.

In this episode, Adam continues to drive around with us and take us all over East Dallas,

and we begin this episode discussing Deep Ellum, and we later head to Griggs Park, talk some more

history of the city, and we end the ride with a visit to the Friedman Cemetery in Dallas.

Garen walks around and reads several plaques and monuments with inscriptions out loud

so you can really feel the weight and significance of one of the largest Friedman cemeteries in the country.

We hope you enjoy the discussion.

I want to talk a little bit about DeBellum.

DeBellum was a neighborhood famous for kind of its proximity to downtown.

It was where a lot of the cotton from the farms in the area would be brought in and ginned

and sent out again on the Central Railroad Track.

Sometimes people call DeBellum Central Track because the Central Railroad Track came right down the middle of one of

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