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The Times Tech Podcast

Earth’s Tom Harries: “Turning people into soil”

The Times Tech Podcast

Will Morley

Business, Unknown, Technology

4.9654 Ratings

🗓️ 10 March 2023

⏱️ 43 minutes

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Summary

The Sunday Times’ tech correspondent Danny Fortson brings on Tom Harries to talk about his previous cremation startup (3:20), how he got into human composting (5:00), the problems with burial and cremation (8:20), society’s changing attitude toward funerals (13:50), perfecting the microbial breakdown process (14:50), controlling temperature (21:10), using human remains to reforest land (24:20), raising $10m (27:15), why it takes 45 days to compost a body (33:05), building a household death brand (34:40), and how he got into the death business (36:50).

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0:00.0

Yo, technology.

0:02.9

What is it all about?

0:04.4

I think if you scratch the name off the top of a paper, if you will, and put it in front of a business school class, it is the most perfect industry to disrupt.

0:16.4

But because it's the funeral industry, people don't want to do it.

0:19.7

And it's not necessarily unwarranted.

0:21.2

Like it is a taxing industry.

0:23.4

It's emotionally taxing.

0:24.9

So it's overlooked for understandable reasons.

0:28.2

Yeah.

0:28.5

Yeah, exactly. Hello and welcome to Danny in the Valley

0:45.2

Your Weekly Dispatch from behind the scenes and inside the minds of the top people in tech this week.

0:51.0

We're going to break up AI month a little bit with a little bit of fun, something different.

0:56.1

And then next week, we'll return to the AI theme with another brilliant guest to talk about

1:02.0

the race for AI supremacy, what it means for war, and in particular, our relationship to and

1:07.7

competition against China. So stay tuned for that. That's a really good one.

1:13.1

But this week, let's talk about death. Let's talk about composting. Let's talk about death and

1:19.4

composting. Let's talk about human composting. You heard that right on the program. We have a

1:25.6

repeat guest, the one and only funeral entrepreneur we

1:30.4

have ever had on Danny in the Valley. And he is Tom Harry's. You may recall we had Tom on back

1:37.8

in a couple of years ago to talk about his last startup, Tulip, Tulip Cremation, which was an app-based

1:44.1

no frills cremation service

1:46.3

that he sold.

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