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The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett

E82: Johann Hari - Everything You Think You Know About Meaning & Happiness Is Wrong

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett

FlightStory

Society & Culture, Business, Education

4.613.2K Ratings

🗓️ 31 May 2021

⏱️ 114 minutes

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Summary

This podcast is a real treat and a podcast that you cannot miss!

Johann has come back and what honour it was to record. He has to be my all-time favourite guest ever! His book ‘Lost Connections’ had such a positive, transformative impact on my life and truly changed my perspective on how I viewed depression & addiction. I am sure that the information shared today will be valuable and important topics that our society needs to hear.

Johann is a very successful and inspirational British-Swiss writer and journalist with 2 books hitting The New York Times best sellers list. Born in Glasgow Scotland then relocated to London when he was young, Johann experienced some childhood trauma having suffered from being physically abused as child and his mother suffering from an illness.

Starting his career as a journalist he won many awards such as Journalist of the year and was named by the Daily Telegraph as one of the most influential people. Johann then went to onto being an author writing the worldwide known “Lost Connections” and “Chasing the Scream”. He also released a TED talk back in 2015 “Everything you think you know about addiction is wrong” which has now over 17 million views.

This honest conversation lasted around 2 hours and we even went on into the evening off air. I genuinely think that this might be the most important podcast you choose to ignore.

I’m not giving much away, but you will thank me after.

Topics:

  • Why do you like writing books?
  • Rat Park
  • Working from home, living through screens
  • Finding meaning within the machine
  • Are we struggling to form meaningful connections
  • How good are you at making connections
  • Psychedelics
  • Is Social media helping us rally together
  • Your new book & your writing style
  • Social media

Transcript

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0:00.0

The most effective strategies for dealing with depression and anxiety are the ones that deal with the reasons why we feel so bad in the first place

0:07.3

We need to stop asking what's wrong with you and start asking what happened to you

0:12.9

If you think life is about money and status and showing off you're gonna feel like shit

0:18.1

It's not like I'm explaining quantum physics, right?

0:20.1

And we've all had that experience where you crave a consumer object

0:22.9

You build up to it, you get it, you get home and you just feel flat

0:26.1

Is it's not the trauma that destroys you?

0:29.3

It's the shame about the trauma and giving people ways to release that shame is an antidepressant

0:36.4

God, it changes really possible

0:48.9

Today we have a real treat for you

0:52.1

This guest today, Johan Hari, is one of my all-time favourite ever podcast guests ever

0:59.4

And I'm not saying that's close, Mokep is asked

1:01.7

When I had the conversation with him and when I started reading his books many years ago

1:05.6

I can quite honestly say that no book I've ever read in my life has had more of a positive impact

1:11.6

A more transformative impact on the topics that matter most to my fulfillment and happiness

1:18.6

Than the work that Johan has done. He is a comedian on one hand. He's an incredible storyteller

1:26.0

He spends a decade writing his book

1:29.0

So you know the information he's gonna share with you today is both profound

1:32.5

It is evidence-backed and it is compelling

1:35.9

True, important and everything that our society at this point in time needs to hear

1:40.9

This could well be the most important podcast I've ever recorded

1:45.2

If you asked me if there was one podcast that I wish the world got to hear

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