There are some who say, well, the whole feminism work was just to divide marriages,

to create a wedge between men and women, and your argument seems to be different from that, though.

Yeah, no, that's right.

There's these two competing strains of early feminists.

One is this strain as pursuit of individuality.

This other strain, this wholster crafty and staying,

understands liberty and rights and equality entirely differently.

They've used men and women as deeply interdependent,

and that's a strain that was lost.

But one that I think really has the capacity to be kind of reclaimed.

Hey guys, welcome back to the Laila Rose podcast.

I hope everybody had a great week, and I was just doing having a great day wherever you are.

Today, on the podcast, we're going to be exploring more women's rights, feminism,

and really that dynamic between men and women in politics and culture,

because we've talked about this on the podcast recently, a few different times,

had some really fascinating conversations.

Recently, we talked with Carrie Grass about her book, The End of Woman,

and her sort of view of feminism as being about occult, the free love,

and radical competition, and individualization from men.

We're going to have on today the Scott Legal Scholar and Catholic Mom of Seven.

She's also an amazing writer, a prolific researcher,

a women's rights and feminism, to talk about her view of the history of the women's rights movement.

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