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E338. Trump’s Tariff Gamble: Genius Move or Economic Disaster? - Carol Roth

Walk-Ins Welcome with Bridget Phetasy

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🗓️ 15 May 2025

⏱️ 83 minutes

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Carol Roth returns for a breakdown of Trump’s tariffs and a nuanced examination of America’s economic challenges. She and Bridget discuss the tariffs’ disproportionate impact on the 35 million small businesses in the US, the alarming debt-to-GDP ratio that has reached unsustainable levels, the truth about American companies with overseas supply chains, the prevailing misconceptions about tariffs, and why a precision approach to the tariffs would have been much better. They discuss the realiti...

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0:00.0

Okay, I'm with Carol Roth, everybody. Welcome back to Walkins. Welcome. I'm so glad to be here. It has been a little while. I haven't had anything to promote, so I haven't been talking to anyone, but here I am. You should be talking to more people, though, because I feel like you're the only person who has any insight into what's going on we we cover a lot of this stuff

0:24.7

on dumpster fire as not experts like tariffs specifically we just we don't cover it we're we're

0:32.1

always like we're not covering this because we don't understand it but i don't know that anyone

0:37.3

understands it.

0:38.3

Even people who have a better understanding than me.

0:41.3

It seems like even all the smart people I know aren't exactly sure

0:46.3

what the rhyme or reason is for a lot of these decisions.

0:50.3

So can you just kind of explain?

0:57.1

I mean, do you, is there a game theory to these tariffs?

1:02.9

Well, first of all, I'm going to say that not understanding tariffs has not stopped everybody and their brother to talking about them.

1:05.8

So, you know, got a lot of information out there.

1:11.5

So I'm going to just take a step back and say that, first of all, we have a really tough fiscal situation that was handed from the Trump, from the Biden administration to the Trump administration.

1:25.5

And it was, even though there was a lot of optimism that you would

1:29.5

get Trump in there to change the route of things, one of the things I had been saying is that

1:35.1

there were these economic tripwires or somebody called them booby traps when I said tripwires,

1:41.3

which is maybe a better name around the economy, because we have debt

1:46.1

to GDP that is completely unsustainable. We have north of 120% debt to GDP, which doesn't mean

1:54.3

anything to the lay person. But basically, if we were an emerging market country, we would be in

2:00.3

crisis. The only reason we're not in crisis

2:02.3

is because we have the world's reserve currency and the world's trading currency. The IMF,

2:08.1

the Treasury, a bunch of folks have said that it really becomes unwieldy at 70 to 80%. So if

2:15.3

you think about that, we're about double what we should be in terms of debt to GDP.

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