All right, I'm with Eric Brimman, everybody.

Welcome to Walkins.

Welcome.

Thank you for being here with me.

My pleasure.

So I wanted to talk to you about what you're doing right now,

because it seems so, you know, this podcast is about just resilience and grit and

innovation and and overcoming obstacles and I feel like what you're doing in your work life is so far outside of the box for most of us to kind of even get our minds around.

So can you kind of just briefly explain to me what you're up to sure happy to

I was born in Venezuela. And I grew up in a country that should be rich by any account but it's actually one of the poorest countries in the region.

Dad led me down a rabbit hole of trying to figure out why certain countries are prosperous and others are not.

What makes society wealthy versus poor.

And during my student years at high school and university,

the answer...

And where were those sorry?

I was at Hargarth Military Academy for high school.

Okay.

And then Bapsin College for undergrad.

Okay.

Okay.

What became apparent, obvious, is that governments have a very important role to play in society

when it comes to establishing the conditions for an economy to flourish

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