There's a weird part of sobriety where nothing is technically wrong, but you still feel uncomfortable in your own skin.

That's what we're talking about. Next.

Welcome to the sober friends podcast and talk about stuff like this, about learning to sit with yourself.

My name is Matt Jay over there is Steve.

Good morning, Steve.

What's up?

Not much, Matt.

Just a beautiful day up here in New England and looking forward to it.

So, all good.

Yeah, I already got my yard work done yesterday, but I'll find a way to hudder around finding things to do.

Here's a question for you.

When did you first realize that getting sober didn't automatically make you comfortable with yourself?

It was right away.

I mean, I wasn't comfortable with myself for years.

I mean that years and years after I got sober.

It took me a long time to learn that and feel that.

And even today, I struggle with that, right?

I mean, that's not like I fixed that because I didn't fix that. And even today, I struggle with that, right? I mean, that's not, it's not like I fixed that,

because I didn't fix that. But, you know, the program has helped me understand that those are

feelings and how to deal with those feelings and how to think about those feelings and how

to interact with those feelings. And as I always love to say, it doesn't mean I always do that stuff perfectly, but I have the

tools to really like take a deep breath. And, you know, I've had some challenges going on in

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