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The Debrief Podcast with Matthew Stephen Brown

E275 | A Decade of REAL Conversation with Stephanie Schafer

The Debrief Podcast with Matthew Stephen Brown

Sandals Church

Spirituality, Christianity, Deconstruction, Religion & Spirituality, Culture, Faith

4.9799 Ratings

🗓️ 12 February 2026

⏱️ 44 minutes

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Summary

Today we’re celebrating a huge milestone — 10 years of The Debrief Podcast— with a very special guest, Stephanie Schafer, one of the original co-hosts from when the show first began. Together, Matthew, Stephanie , and Tammy look back on the very first episode that aired on February 8, 2016, the heart behind starting the podcast, and the conversations that shaped the last decade.

In this anniversary episode, we revisit defining moments from the show, reflect on how honest dialogue has impacted real-life faith conversations, and explore why transparency — even when it feels uncomfortable — is still deeply needed in Christian spaces today. From topics the Church once avoided to the ones we can’t ignore anymore, this episode is both a celebration and a look forward to what’s next.

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0:00.0

Welcome to the debrief podcast with Matthew Stephen Brown, where we take questions about faith,

0:05.3

the Bible, and culture and give you honest, practical advice you can trust. This is a space to ask

0:10.5

anything and get real answers for real life. We're glad you're here. Now let's get into today's

0:16.0

episode. Hey everybody and welcome to this episode of The Debrief podcast.

0:22.8

And I have a bit of Imposter Syndrome today because I'm sitting next to the original co-host of the debrief.

0:31.2

The O.G.

0:31.8

Hello, Ms. Stephanie Schaefer.

0:34.0

So Matt and I are super excited to have Steph here today.

0:37.3

I'm so happy to be here.

0:38.5

As we realized, okay, everybody has maybe seen the trend recently that was like go back to

0:45.2

2016 and look at pictures. And I had sent Steph some pictures of her and I from 2016.

0:51.8

And then in going through her own reel, she said, did you realize this is the 10 year anniversary of the debrief? When I was like, 2016, that's when we started the debrief. I'm like, why is, and it took me a minute when the trend started to go like, why is everyone talking about 2016 and that was 10 years ago? Like I didn't really, I thought it was just like a weird thing, like weird things come up on the other. And I was like, oh, everyone's into 2016. Oh, because that was 10 years ago, which feels unreal. It was a decade ago. And so in honor of that, we said, let's get together and celebrate 10 years of a podcast that, who knew? Who knew we would be here 10 years later? So, Steph, give us a little update.

1:27.7

How are you?

1:28.2

Oh, I'm good.

1:29.8

In the last 10 years, I've gotten married, kind of two children.

1:33.2

Yes.

1:33.8

Matt takes credit for it.

1:35.2

Yeah.

1:36.3

Samples Church and the volunteer process is really what the last year is.

1:39.0

You know what's take a moment here.

1:41.0

I told her we're going to do this, but let's take a moment, Matt, and talk about how you met your husband and shout out to joining a team here at Sandals Church. So I was on staff at Sanchez Church. I was running our communications team, and we did a big push for volunteers, specifically within our creative team. We were looking for artists and writers and musicians, and anybody who signed up to write as a volunteer got put into my queue.

2:01.2

And so I just sent out an email like, hey, if you're interested in writing, this will we look back. I think I must have sent so many emails back. Two people responded. One of them was a guy named Tyler Schaefer who said, I love this church. His response was beautiful and wonderful. I was like, who is this guy? He is a good writer, though. He's a phenomenal writer. That's kind of cheating if you're single.

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