E274: Sober Twelve Years. Still Avoiding the Phone

Sober Friends

Matt J

12 Steps, Spirituality, Personal Journals, Mental Health, Sober, Recovery, Health & Fitness, Addiction, Religion & Spirituality, Alcohol Free, Sober Curious, Alcoholics Anonymous, Dry January, Society & Culture, Sobriety

4.3 • 722 Ratings

🗓️ 5 May 2026

⏱️ 33 minutes

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Send us Fan Mail Matt and Steve talk about what happens when old alcoholic thinking shows up without the alcohol. Matt shares what it has been like tapering off medication, including the dark, isolating feeling that reaching out would not help — even when he knows connection usually does. They also get into emotional overreactions, escape fantasies, family stress, broken phones, sponsor avoidance, and the uncomfortable truth that recovery still asks for action long after the drinking stops. T...

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0:00.0	I'm going to blow up. I'm going to lose my shit. And I'm going to all of a sudden. And then, again, one of my new favorite phrases, because it fits me to a tea, I start running my escape fantasy. Right. How do I escape from life? Right. And I mean it. I still have an escape fantasy. Mine doesn't include alcohol anymore or drugs,
0:22.2	but it includes just getting away, like, you know, the way I put it into words when I talk about it is
0:27.5	packing up my car, going up to New Hampshire, getting a cabin somewhere, and just live in the woods
0:32.9	where I can do some hiking with my dog, just get away from the world.
0:43.7	Okay. and do some hiking with my dog. Just get away from the world. Welcome to the sober friends podcast.
0:46.0	My name is Matt Jay, and Steve is over there.
0:49.3	What do we do?
0:50.0	We talk about sobriety.
0:51.5	We talk about things that not as sober.
0:54.6	Sometimes we talk about the things that kept us out there for too long.
0:57.8	So if you have a burning desire to find a way out of the bottle,
1:06.4	I think that you are in the right place.
1:08.8	Steve, what is going on with you?
1:11.0	Good Sunday morning, Matt.
1:12.9	It's a beautiful day up here in Connecticut.
1:15.4	You won't hear this on Sunday because that's not when Matt drops it.
1:18.8	But yeah, it's a beautiful morning.
1:20.7	And I can't wait to get outside.
1:23.3	And it's going to be a little cool, but nice for this area.
1:28.4	Beautiful sunshine. It's beautiful sunshine.
1:29.4	It's fine.
1:30.5	Yep.
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