Being an alcoholic is not a moral failure. And it is not something that you have to have shame about.

I have lots of shame and about things that I did in my past. But the fact that I was an alcoholic is not one of them.

That's my point. It's not. And the truth is, because I'm an alcoholic and I found

a program of recovery that for me was life-changing, I'm grateful that I was an alcoholic and found

recovery. Yeah, I had a lot of gratitude, too. It actually taught me that here was the thing that

you couldn't really, you realize that there was something off about you here's

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Hey, you're in the right place.

If you're sober curious, if you live in the sober lifestyle,

my name is Matt Jay. Steve is over there. What's up, Steve?

Not much, man. How are you doing today? I'm doing great. Good times here. I want to talk a little

bit about Dr. Silkworth because we did this chapter this week in our big book meeting.

And I have a lot of thoughts on how that chapter is relevant, where it's not.

But just in digging around while we started the chapter, I dug in a little bit to Dr. Silkworth because I kind of wanted to

figure out how long did he live after the big book came out. And he only lived about 12 more

years. He was at the end of his life. He died in Towns Hospital where he worked. But I found a

footnote there that he had an article written in medical review, which

sounds like it's one of those journals like along the lines of Jama, Journal of American

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