E264 | Developing Political Discernment
The Debrief Podcast with Matthew Stephen Brown
Sandals Church
5 • 781 Ratings
🗓️ 3 July 2025
⏱️ 35 minutes
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Summary
In this episode of The Debrief Podcast, Pastor Matt and Tammy Brown dive into some of the most pressing and personal questions facing Christians today—from immigration and justice to protests, discernment, and the way we judge ourselves. With honesty, biblical insight, and real-life perspective, they unpack how to navigate complex cultural and spiritual issues with both compassion and conviction. Whether you’re feeling torn, confused, or just curious, this conversation offers thoughtful guidance and encouragement for your faith journey.
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| 0:00.0 | welcome to the debrief podcast with matthew stephen brown on this show pastor matt sits down |
| 0:08.3 | with his friends to answer your questions about life jesus and the bible let's get into the |
| 0:15.1 | episode well welcome back to another episode of the Debrief podcast with Matthew Stephen Brown. |
| 0:24.1 | And we have a lot of questions to get through today that I think are going to be a lot of answers. |
| 0:29.9 | So no banter from us this morning. |
| 0:31.4 | Yes, I love the banter, though. |
| 0:32.4 | Sorry, everyone's going to miss that. |
| 0:34.4 | But we're going to jump right into these because it's serious times and we have some serious questions. And thank you so much to everybody who's sending in these fantastic |
| 0:41.3 | questions. This first question comes from Jesus in Winchester, California, so not too far from us. |
| 0:47.5 | It says this, Hi, Pastor Matt. I'm a first generation Mexican-American Christian and long-time |
| 0:53.4 | listener. Thank you for that. |
| 0:55.3 | I've been wrestling with how to respond to recent ice raids and immigration protests here in Los Angeles. |
| 1:01.2 | I understand the importance of borders and legal systems. |
| 1:04.0 | I'm also a taxpayer, so I understand the frustration that people feel about social programs being used by those who don't always pay into them. |
| 1:11.3 | But I also have undocumented family members who are good people. |
| 1:15.2 | If there had been a legal path to citizenship, residency, or green card, they absolutely would have taken it. |
| 1:21.7 | But across multiple administrations from both parties, nothing has changed. |
| 1:26.3 | And I feel torn? |
| 1:29.2 | Am I betraying my family? if I support immigration law enforcement? Or am I betraying biblical justice and compassion if I stay |
| 1:34.9 | silent? And then how should Christians think biblically and faithfully about immigration |
| 1:39.9 | enforcement when the system itself seems to be broken. So many people are asking this question |
| 1:44.9 | right now. It's such a good question. Let me first of all say, thank you for your question. |
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