E263 | Losing Friends, Keeping Faith

The Debrief Podcast with Matthew Stephen Brown

Sandals Church

Deconstruction, Spirituality, Religion & Spirituality, Culture, Faith, Christianity

5 • 781 Ratings

🗓️ 26 June 2025

⏱️ 35 minutes

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Summary

Not all friendships last forever—even the ones that feel God-ordained. In this heartfelt episode of The Debrief, Pastor Matthew Stephen Brown and special guest Madison Moses address what to do when your relationships leave you feeling alone, hurt, or confused.

Is God calling you into a season of separation, or are your friendships revealing deeper emotional and spiritual truths? From ghosted texts to years-long friendships that suddenly break, we explore how to grieve well, set boundaries with wisdom, and move forward with grace.

If you’ve ever wondered whether to keep reaching out or finally let go, this episode is for you.

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0:00.0	Welcome to the debrief podcast with Matthew Stephen Brown.
0:06.0	On this show, Pastor Matt sits down with his friends to answer your questions about life, Jesus, and the Bible.
0:14.2	Let's get into the episode.
0:19.4	Welcome back to the debrief podcast with Matthew Stephen Brown. I am your co-host today, Madison
0:24.3	Moses, aka Madison Brown Lakeley, and your amazing firstborn. Eldest, yes. Changed my life. Changed
0:32.2	your life recently, too. Stress me out. Yeah, yeah, became a grandmother. Or I became a grandfather.
0:37.0	Wow. You became a mother. I became a grandfather. Yes, yes, became a grandmother. Or I became a grandfather. Wow.
0:39.2	You became a mother.
0:40.0	I became a grandfather.
0:41.4	Yes, yes, yes.
0:42.9	And it's been a very crazy journey. By the way, everybody asks me what am I, what are we going to be called?
0:46.0	We're going by grandma and grandpa.
0:47.1	Like, we're just like, like, a nickname, Pooppa, pee-pee, wee, you know. Yeah, I was pretty, I was going to let you guys pick, but I also was pretty anti that also.
0:58.3	Yeah, and for everybody out there who has nicknames, that's great.
1:00.5	We're just, we're just, I'm not criticized.
1:02.3	We're straight forward.
1:03.1	There's too many labels this day and age.
1:04.6	I needed to be clear. We can edit that out if we didn't like that. No, it was great. Okay. Okay, let's jump in.
1:11.5	This episode has to do with friendships, which I actually love that I'm co-hosting today because if I could summarize most of what you've counseled me in my entire life, it's friendships.
1:21.9	Yeah.
1:22.2	Whether they've gone good or bad.
1:24.4	So I love that.
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