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let's get into the show. In the book it tells me, alcohol was a symptom, not the problem, right?

Absolutely. It would have been hard to convince me when I first came in that that was true.

Like I probably would have yesed you to death, but I wouldn't have believed it.

And today I believe it completely.

Like, oh, no, alcohol was what I was using as a solution to these underlying problems that you're referring to this morning.

And because, again, whether it's a genetic thing,

whether it's environmental, both of those I had in my life, right?

I had a genetic, possibly with a mom who's an alcoholic.

I certainly was growing up around alcohol

where it was used freely and excessively all around me.

So I don't know where that lies,

but I had this disposition to be drawn to

alcohol.

Hey, welcome everybody to the sober friends podcast. I'm Matt Jay He, Steve, over there. And,

you know, alcohol is, is our problem. So that's why we're here. We're here to talk

about our issues with alcohol, how we got sober, how we stay sober, giving some inspiration to

the new guy. Is alcohol our main issue or is alcohol the thing that got us in trouble because it was our solution?

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