Welcome everyone to another special edition of Clerically Speaking.

And this one is with my good friend Michael Heinlein, who's here to talk to us about his cardal

George Brooks.

But first, just like, welcome Michael to the clerically speaking.

Thanks so much for having me.

This is really the only time we allow lay people on the podcast is when

Father, when we're doing a special episode, because they're not worthy of our usual

weekly drop.

No, I'm kidding.

Well, we're talking about a cleric, right?

Well, this is kind of why I was pretty much okay with it.

You know, the last one I did with a layperson was with Daniel Drain, and we talked about

Balthasar.

He was a priest.

We're fine.

You know, so as long as we're talking about a cleric, as long as it's majority

cleric content, we're good.

So, Michael, May, why don't you tell people a bit about yourself before we kind of get into the book?

Well, I'm a husband, father of three, author, and editor.

I do a lot of freelance work with our Sunday visitor.

And co-wrote a book with you, of course. I was going to say, you quote wrote a book with a pretty awesome guy.

That's right.

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