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The Lila Rose Show

E201: Ancient Faith & Modern Persecution: Orthodox Christianity w/Fr Josiah Trenham

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🗓️ 1 April 2025

⏱️ 79 minutes

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Summary

What’s it like to be an Orthodox Christian in Syria? Father Josiah Trenham shares powerful stories of faith under fire. Over 12 years ago, Sunni jihadists kidnapped the Archbishop. Today’s Archbishop faces no less danger. When the leader of ISIS passed through Aleppo, he sent a chilling message: "I'll have your head." The Archbishop’s bold reply? "Come and take it—I’m not leaving my people."


The courage of Syrian Christians under persecution is both inspiring and convicting—a sharp contrast to the religious freedom we often take for granted. Join Father Josiah and me as we explore religious freedom worldwide, the history of the Orthodox Church, the power of martyrs, and more.


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00:00:00 - Intro

00:03:46 - Why Orthodox?

00:09:09 - Catholic vs Orthodox

00:09:43 - Covenant Eyes

00:10:46 - Orthodox vs Catholic vs Protestant

00:19:08 - Orthodox are Very Stubborn

00:20:22 - Crowd Health

00:21:21 - Orthodox Liturgy melted Father’s heart

00:25:41 - Biggest differences between Catholic and Orthodox?

00:29:42 - EveryLife

00:30:30 - “Radical Difference” in understanding of Holy Spirit

00:41:50 - Christians in Syria and Middle East

00:44:40 - Early Church Martyrs

00:48:43 - Are you in touch with Christians in Syria?

00:50:28 - Islam and War in Syria

00:54:56 - What do you make of moderate Muslims?

01:09:06 - What can we do for Syrians?

01:14:41 - Trump Administration

Transcript

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0:00.0

Why Orthodox?

0:01.0

I started going there and I just saw the icons and I felt the reverence and I heard the chanting.

0:06.0

It completely grabbed me. It melted me.

0:09.0

It's otherworldly.

0:10.0

It is otherworldly.

0:11.0

I am curious how you see the biggest difference between Roman Catholicism and Orthodoxy.

0:16.0

I don't want to be offensive in any way.

0:18.0

Please speak freely.

0:19.0

That's not the only issue. The issue is that it radically, we think that's just the biggest made up.

0:24.6

What does it look like to be a champion of religious freedom for a Syrian who's about to get his head chopped off because he happens to be an Orthodox bishop?

0:31.6

Metropolitan Bulos and his driver were stopped by Sunni jihadis.

0:35.6

They pulled his deacon out of the driver's seat. We prayed for him

0:39.1

every day in our churches for over 10 years.

0:46.2

Hey guys, welcome back to the Lila Rose show. I sit down today with Father Josiah Trenum,

0:50.9

who is an Orthodox priest. He is in touch with a lot of the Christians in Syria who are right

0:56.4

now under attack, quite frankly. Father Josiah also shares about a Orthodox bishop in Syria right now,

1:03.8

who was recently threatened by the new government that he would be beheaded and how he responded

1:09.9

to that threat. We're also going to talk

1:11.6

about some of the differences between Roman Catholicism and Orthodoxy. We get into that just a

1:15.6

little bit in this episode as well. As always, don't forget to subscribe to the show, wherever you

1:19.7

listen to your podcast. And if you're here on YouTube, make sure you are subscribed and hit that

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