E199: Ex-Witch Tell-All: Cults, Dark Magic, and Being Rescued by Jesus w/Jac Marino Chen
The Lila Rose Show
Lila Rose
4.8 • 2K Ratings
🗓️ 25 March 2025
⏱️ 115 minutes
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Summary
Jac Marino Chen shares her gripping journey from the depths of ritual magic and the occult to finding redemption in Jesus Christ. After a traumatic childhood, she was drawn into New Age practices and eventually became fully immersed in a cult—practicing dark rituals and witchcraft. But even at the deepest point of spiritual darkness, Jesus met her and rescued her from that world. In this raw and powerful testimony, Jac reveals how God pursued her through the lies and deception—and brought her into the true freedom that can only be found in Him.
Jac's YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@JacMarinoChen/videos
Her Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jacmarino/?hl=en
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00:00:00 - Intro
00:02:19 - Jac’s Childhood & S*xual Ab*se
00:11:01 - Hallow
00:12:13 - What is ‘New Age’ Spirituality?
00:22:07 - Good Ranchers
00:23:11 - Any “spiritual experiences” from drugs?
00:24:18 - When did you start practicing the occult?
00:29:13 - ‘I felt liberated’
00:34:32 - Seven Weeks
00:35:39 - The Occult is Everywhere in Pop Culture
00:41:23 - What is ‘Esotericism’ and ’S*x Magic?’
00:46:16 - What is a Hermetic order?
00:49:52 - Offering ‘eucharist’ to pagan gods
00:55:06 - Masonic lodge initiation
01:22:50 - When did you definitively leave the occult?
01:32:17 - Most surprising message from someone in the occult?
01:36:49 - Church of Satan and Abortion
01:39:31 - How was Jac’s life changed?
01:42:51 - Have you heard of other conversion from the occult?
01:52:26 - Advice for a confused world?
Transcript
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| 0:00.0 | At what point did you actually start practicing the occult? The initiation was a black robe. I was |
| 0:05.0 | hoodwinked. A sword was held to my neck. I had to swear an oath that I could never talk about it. |
| 0:09.9 | They seem so liberated. They aren't held down by dogma. They can just be free, be sexually liberated, |
| 0:15.7 | be spiritually liberated. Hasbro, the toy company has a Ouija board. Yes. The deeper I would go into it, the more I would grow this disdain for Christianity. There's a very just punishment for that, which is a very real place called hell, and that's where I was headed. But God is love. |
| 0:32.6 | Hello, everybody. Welcome back to the Lila Rose show. Today I'm sitting down with Jack Marino Chen, who was practicing in the occult in the new age. She was actually involved in ritual magic and a whole lot more. Jack shares about how she fell into the occult, became a practicing occultist at a Freemason Lodge. And then she shares her incredible story of how God found her and rescued her from that world. |
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| 1:28.6 | the bio. Jack Marino Chen, welcome to the podcast. Thank you so much for having me. Your story caught my eye. |
| 1:35.1 | I thought I have to talk with Jack. It's an incredible story. And I think it's so relevant to so many |
| 1:40.1 | people today because of the state of the world with the occult, with the new age, so much |
| 1:44.4 | demonic activity, and people should know your story. So thank you for being willing to share it |
| 1:49.7 | and give your testimony. Yes, it's an honor and it's truly so humbling that God would use |
| 1:54.8 | saving me out of such darkness to now I get to testify that he is the Savior and And it's truly humbling. And I'm thankful for every |
| 2:02.4 | opportunity to do it. So you're from California originally, right? Yes. I'd love to just hear the |
| 2:07.5 | beginning, you know, young Jack, what life was like. And then obviously we're going to get into |
| 2:11.9 | what ended up happening, you know, later on in your childhood. But I'd love to hear how your |
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