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The Lila Rose Show

E180: The Most Unlikely Convert w/Dr. Scott Hahn

The Lila Rose Show

Lila Rose

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4.82K Ratings

🗓️ 14 January 2025

⏱️ 109 minutes

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Summary

Join me for an inspiring conversation with author and theologian Dr. Scott Hahn as he shares his remarkable journey from a rebellious teenager to a devoted follower of Jesus. Dr. Hahn recounts his transformative discovery of the Catholic Church through scripture and the writings of the Church Fathers—an experience that challenged his biases, strained friendships, and even tested his marriage. At the heart of this discussion is a profound exploration of the Eucharist, the central focus of the Mass, and its rich foreshadowing in biblical references to the sacrifice of the lamb. Don’t miss this engaging episode that will deepen your scripture study and reveal the powerful story behind one of today’s most influential Catholic thinkers.

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0:00.0

By the time I was 14, I had been busted for breaking and entering, shoplifting, sales and possession,

0:06.6

burglary, fraud, forgery, you know, tearing apart my grandma's rosary beads, because I just thought

0:12.1

these represent the chains of superstition and falsehood. And I was teaching the covenant in how God

0:17.3

father's a married couple, then a family, then a tribe, then 12 tribes.

0:21.8

So I drew this big family pyramid that should ideally be worldwide.

0:25.8

And one of my sharpest students, Rebecca, said, sure looks like the Catholic church to us, you know.

0:30.4

And I said, no, this is the antidote to Catholicism, you know.

0:33.3

What I want non-Catholics to see is what we agree on is so much greater than where we disagree.

0:39.1

And when Gabriel was a teenager and I shared this vision of the timeline of the covenants,

0:43.5

the fulfillment of the old and the new, and he told me for the first time like last year,

0:47.1

that was my adult conversion.

0:49.4

I looked at that and I could cry.

0:59.1

I saw something on. I don't know where I saw it. Somebody had taken your Bible for decades and gave it back recently. Yeah. I don't have it with me.

1:06.6

Somebody stole it from the parish, I want to say St. Joseph's, in Fort Wayne.

1:15.6

And I remember, because I looked, it was there, and then I talked to it, and then I looked

1:20.1

and it was gone. And they said, oh, you just lost them. I'm like, I don't lose that.

1:24.7

But, I mean, the irony is a kind of divine humor in this because somebody did take it.

1:31.0

And so my fellow, my brother, Knights, who were saying, oh, no, you just lost them.

1:34.4

Like, I'm telling you, I didn't lose it.

1:36.2

Somebody took it.

1:36.7

They were like, oh, we asked, you know.

1:38.6

And so it was four weeks ago, out of the blue, this package.

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