Hey folks, welcome to this special live stream edition of the Dark Horse podcast.

I am here with Dr. Heather Hying, who was I kid you not Evergreen's most popular professor

and for a very good reason.

We are going to talk today about what took place at Evergreen both before and after the

protests that turned so quickly into riots.

This is an anniversary for us.

It's the third anniversary of the day that 50 students I had never met showed up at my

classroom, accusing me of racism and demanding that I either resign or be fired, I refused,

and things descended from there into certainly chaos.

I would argue anarchy, which was in fact the plan of many of the protesters.

All right.

Where shall we begin?

I think you wanted to start before we talked a little bit about what Evergreen had been

in its past and how it was founded about the spectacular and public nature of the collapse.

Just start there.

That's what you had said to me.

Yeah.

The problem for us is that we were for reasons that will surely come up in our discussion

here.

We were fully ensconced in a life in Olympia, Washington and our teaching lives were the

core of it.

So we spent 14 years, in my case, 15 years, and yours teaching in an environment that freed

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