Most of us assume that what you see is what you get.

We assume that the moon is there, even if you don't look.

The bottom line is the probability zero. All right, so reality is not the way that we perceive it. You don't see the truth. The reason is because it's infinitely complicated. If a tree falls in the forest and no one's around to perceive it, does it still make a sound? This has been a big problem in science. until I discovered the trace logic.

And just six months ago, I think I found the key

that I've been looking for for make a sound. This has been a big problem in science until I discovered the trace logic.

And just six months ago, I think I found the key that I've been looking for for 40 years.

This is the first time I've actually talked about this.

But the interesting thing is, spiritual traditions have been saying this for thousands of

years.

And now the best science says that.

The best science does not say you're just a lump of atoms that happens to have some consciousness.

Now the smart money is on, yeah, you and I are one.

From this bigger point of view, there's infinite exploration and the exploration is you.

And a lot of the exploration will be done, as the mystical traditions have said, in silence.

And that silence itself is tapping into this infinite

wisdom that everybody is.

Hey, everyone. Welcome back to the Know They Self podcast. Our guest today is back for the third

time. We love him so much. And I'm excited to dive into this conversation exploring the nature of reality and its many different aspects.

He is a cognitive psychologist, an author, a consciousness researcher, and somebody whose extensive research and both consciousness and evolutionary game theory has positioned

him uniquely to be a pioneer in emerging discoveries around the nature of reality that really

shakes up our intuitions and notions of what it is in the first place. Donald Hoffman.

Thank you, Andre. Good to be back. That's great to be here. Again, the third time. Thank you very much

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