I'm Cat Ramirez, your host of Stand Out and Grow.

I want to help your business Stand Out, survive, succeed, and grow.

Building your business is really, really hard,

and knowing what marketing and advertising tools you need to help you become successful is extremely confusing.

After 30 years of working with thousands of businesses.

I am here to help you make good business decisions.

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So let's get started.

Hey there, this is Kat. Thank you for joining me and my standout and grow

podcast. Today I have a super awesome guest John Hudson who is with Spotlight branding and he's going to be talking about how to stand out without Google, which has me very intrigued.

So I hope it has you intrigued as well.

And you will be able to ask him questions

and find out more about what he does and he's also going to walk us

through on how we can stand out without Google. So without further ado do let me bring John on so that he can introduce

himself to you. Hey John. Hey Kat, thanks for having me. Absolutely.

So if you can give everybody,

just a little background about you and,

you know, who you are and some of the things that you do.

Yeah, so, you know, on the professional side of things I'm the editorial director for

Spotlight branding we provide content marketing services for law firms we focus on helping people generate more referrals, which is going to lead into what we talk about today.

But day-to-day-wise, I get to do fun things things like this I get to come on podcasts I also manage the media section of our website spotlight

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